Senator Barbara Boxer’s recent criticism of Condoleezza Rice—that the Secretary of State, as a single woman, would not pay a “personal price” for the President’s proposal to send yet more American sons and daughters to war in Iraq—has been denounced by White House spokesman Tony Snow as “a great step back for feminism.” Rice herself endorsed this view in her reply to Boxer: “Gee, I thought that single women had come further than that.”
Senator Boxer’s criticism is unfair and indeed spiteful, but not, as Snow and Rice claim, anti-feminist. What Boxer was really getting at, it seems to me, was not just Rice’s position as a childless and unmarried woman. It was what she saw as Rice’s lack of solidarity with her sex. A true feminist (so runs the subtext) would not have supported this proposal, because women do not approve of war in general, and foreign wars in particular. The feminist view is that women always pay the price for male violence, which can only ever be justified in self-defense, and even then must never be encouraged or glorified.
This view underlies, I would argue, the dissatisfaction and even hostility with which ideological feminists have usually treated women who are elected to public office. They hated Margaret Thatcher for precisely the reason that many men admired her: because she was at once feminine and manly. The “Iron Lady”—a nickname conferred upon her by one of her male counterparts—was loathed by feminists who assumed that any female prime minister would share their repugnance for the masculine virtues. When Mrs. Thatcher did the opposite, they saw her as a traitor. Many of them, apparently, see Condoleezza Rice in the same light.
In what Harvey Mansfield’s cunningly counter-cultural book Manliness calls “the gender-neutral society,” there is no place for these masculine virtues, and hence no place either for women who value them. Condoleezza Rice deserves to be defended not merely as a woman who has chosen to remain single, but also as a woman who expects men to be prepared to die for their country. Without such women, men are unlikely to make that sacrifice.










“Why is You Tube capitulating to those who do not wish for Israel to be able to tell its side of the story?”
Take a wild guess.
Noah,
Aren’t you the same person who posted “The new meme” and “Propaganda from WaPo” immediately below?
Am I missing something, or are you simply iterating redundant posts?
Go to Liveleak to see the videos
http://www.liveleak.com/
I’ll take your word for it. I just watched a bunch of the videos. Too grainy to scrutinize closely on a BlackBerry anyway. But it was obvious that the targeting was precise and not random. Isn’t that the main point?
Materialist,
are you able to comprehend the points of 2 different posts? The WaPo creates reality, and the IDF films it happening. I think that is clear to anyone.
I thought Materialist was being sarcastic since obviously both posts are showing the anti -Israel bias in different media forms.
Unless Jonas is also being sarcastic. I guess what else is left after the media coverage of the election and now this war.
Has Noah or anyone asked You Tube why they removed the footage but left other war footage remain?
Google owns YouTube. Google censors, capitulating to China, among others. Why not Hamas?
Hi Jay,
I couldn’t tell. I was really asking. If one instance of anti-Israel bias is located at WaPo, is it really redundant to point out a separate example of Youtube? Why would someone find that to be a repetition?
Hmmm.
This doesn’t even include the jihadist videos made in Iraq by snipers and bombers put up on YouTube.
#s 1,8,9
Do you all want a “Fairness” policy for privately owned media companies? Some Contentionsistas hate that idea if it would affect Conservative orientated privately owned media companies.
RCAR:
No one’s calling for a government-imposed “fairness doctrine,” which would be unconstitutional on the Internet anyway.
But how about a little less patent anti-Semitism? Wouldn’t that be a nice change?
David T: It doesn’t seem as if RCAR would find that a welcome change.
because nobody cares about Israel/Hamas.
youtube did the right job in removing that.
Simple. You Tube is run by Google, which is run by a gaggle of left-wing goons.
I’m sure AIPAC will fix this. They’ve got their fingers in everything else here.
David T. Says:
December 30th, 2008 at 12:45 PM
RCAR:
But how about a little less patent anti-Semitism? Wouldn’t that be a nice change?
Accusations of anti-semitism at the drop of a hat. However, I don’t take it personally;denounciation is part of how the Contentions game is played.
This is what you get in the world of Google. Google doesn’t want to make information more accesible and organized, they want to control information. Since media is going online and Google is looking to dominate online, this is dangerous.
Since the Republican party has been allowing the Cheney/Bush administration to filter news from Iraq and Afghanastan for the past 6 years, why is this a problem…? Censorship has been refined to a perfect weapon by the Republicans, and now they are whining….
Typical though….
Why can’t YouTube pull whatever it wants? It is YouTube’s site after all.
Whether or not Yahoo or Google abide by China law is a legal matter and may not reflect what people consider “fair.” The Constitution is a shield to protect individuals and companies, and it is not a sword to cut of people’s rights.
Should I have to post every video or comment posted to my blog? Should you?
Or could it be that YouTube doesn’t want to be in the center of pro-Israeli propoganda? Face it, folx; not everyone supports Israel or its agenda. It’s not about being pro-Hamas or anti-semitic; it’s about attempting to discern truth from propaganda.
because we are sick of spielberg and the like trying to shove the jew plight down our throats whilst they charge us exhorbetant amounts of money for films, legal fees, and dentist visits in the US. Notice the cheks and poles who are five million killed to 6 million jews killed in the holocaust, arent shoving their 70 year old saga down our throats. who cares about the jews. who cares about any race who bickers and complains woe is me. no one likes a complainer.
I nominate #23 as Comment of the Day. Why, indeed, pay exorbitant amounts of money for films, legal fees, and dentist visits? These Jews have clearly gone too far.
Simply more Israeli propaganda.
Clear out of your occupied territories and start acting like human beings.
If you truly want peace….earn it.
I think “Observer” if you were attacked repeatedly you would “complain” too.
Of course, if Observer can’t even spell – it’s Czech not “check” you idiot – you obviously aren’t smart enough to be taken seriously.
YouTube is a private entity. It can post or not post whatever it pleases. If you don’t like what you tube does, stop using its services and if enough people do just that it will either perish as a company or change its policies if a boycott effects its bottom line.
Quite simply, if you don’t like what you tube does, don’t go to the YouTube site; if you feel that YouTube is controlled by Google, don’t use Googles’ services.
In a free society they can do as they please and you can chose to not participate, ignore it, create an alternative, or speak out gainst it. the last thing anybody should wnat is somebody, right or left, deciding what is fair and who gets to say, share, display or view what.
how about because it’s an american company and of COURSE it’s going to show US airstrikes and guess what… ain’t no such thing as a free lunch, and they know where their bread is buttered?
get a grip, it’s not prejudice it’s simple economics… and this is still a FREE enterprise country, right?
Israel is not trying to tell its side of the story. Over it’s entire existence it has lied, manipulated the truth, and favored propaganda over the truth. The brutal and calculated occupation of Palestine over many decades to destroy the cultural, social, and economic well-being of the original inhabitants is the story that needs to be told.
it is difficult to view the words Israel and humanitarian in the same sentence. Israel has long been
, along with Turkey, one of the most frequent violators of human rights. the United States has shamefully abstained in United Nation’s votes condemning Israel for such practices. Hamas
has little regard for the safety of the innocents; compromise is not a word that is included
in the vocabulary of its leaders. The average Israeli income is approximately $18,000 per annum,
with the average Palestinian earning roughly $1800 a year. It will take more inspired leadership on both sides to find a peaceful resolution to this long-standing conflict. As for terrorism, it’s important to note that two former Israeli prime ministers (Begin and Shamir) were themselves terrorists–having bombed the King David Hotel in the late forties. Bill Honer, Costa Rica
#28 In a free society? Google is trying to be the master of the universe online, witness Google Maps, Google Android, GMAIL, Google Chrome, and YouTube. If there are the only game in town, which is what it seems they are trying to do, then what? They will control information and what you know and what you see.
Is this video on the IDF channel too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx0X1gycCGQ&fmt=18
Since the Republican party has been allowing the Cheney/Bush administration to filter news from Iraq and Afghanastan for the past 6 years, why is this a problem…? Censorship has been refined to a perfect weapon by the Republicans, and now they are whining….
Typical though….
To the anti-Israel creeps who are crawling from their shadows as they always do when the Jews dare to defend themselves:
Yes, Youtube can do what it wants and yes we can call it on its hypocrisy and anti-Israel bias. If you don’t like us pointing that out, go back over to your Ron Paul for President, or 911wasaninsidejon or Daily Kos or one of the other countless fever swamps where creatures like you dwell and where facts and moral clarity go to die. Really, you’ll find much more receptive audiences at Huffington Post than here, so begone with you.
Personally I’m rooting for Israel to crush Hamas.
Seriously, not facetiously, why doesn’t Israel set up its own video website in addition to using YouTube, etc?
Maybe it has.
Instead of beating around the burning bush, as a Jewish woman from the feminist 60′s, let’s be up front about this. Anti-semitism is at an all-time high. They were putting Jews in ovens only a little more than 60 years ago and no one gives a crap. If you had substituted the word “black” for every “Israeli” or “Jewish” in the above comments, or even on You-Tube, every post here would be on Katie Couric or Brian Williams and the six o’clock news. But no, they’re “Only Jews”, so they didn’t care about Daniel Pearl having his head chopped off, nor Nicholas Berg, nor any other Jew for whom the media refused to graphically show the beheading. It is, and has been for decades, blatantly obvious that Jews are hated around the world. If you had half a brain and actually looked at a map, you would see, (if you were smart enough to find it) that Israel is incredibly tiny, smaller than one mile wide in some places, and surrounded by ruthless enemies drooling to wipe it off the face of the earth. For Lord’s sake, OPEN YOUR EYES.
J Lichty hits a home run as usual.
It seems that Jesus St Jesus equates all problems worldwide with the GOP.
Get off it already sonny and try, just try, to stick to the issues being discussed.
The GOP, Bush and Cheney are not part of the current discussion about Israel and or Hamas.
Wow. Post 21 onward has really raised the level of discussion at this site. Lets see. We got the opposing Israel [for it's unspeakably monstrous crimes that transcend the worst horrors of human imagination!!!] is not antisemitism argument. The Jews control the world argument. The “well you should get out of the occupied teritorities if you want peace despite Israel already having withdrawn from Gaza (and Lebanon) and getting none” argument. The “its a free country damn it” argument, which roughly translated means I like what the company is doing so bare legality trumps all. The “its all Israeli propaganda and no one tells the brutal story of the PLIGHT OF THE PALESTINIANS” argument, a plight so unspeakable that it can only be conveyed in vague generalities and ahistoric platitudes, and finally the “Israel is an a priori human rights abuser and all Palestinian problems are Israel’s fault” argument. Well nice to see what the progressive side of the blogosphere is thinking.
I am glad UTube removed any videos showing someones death. The younger kids who like UTube shouldn’t be able to see those if possible. I don’t care about adults being able to see them, but UTube is frequented by mostly minors. Peace.
ok — what happened to ‘ love thy neighbor as thyself ‘ — one of the commandments
perhaps those who decided to censor such videos realize that some of us recognize that regardless of whatever supposed transgression committed by Hamas, the state of Israel is expected to take the morally high ground
[ i. e., if the six-year sister of a 16-year old boy hits him one would hardly expect the elder to justifiably hit her as hard as he could in retaliation ]
LOL.. You mean like the GOP drags out Clinton as the cause of all the worlds problems? Get off it. Your party has shown itself as out of date and led by wacko screaming right wing white male whiners….. when will you realize that the rove/limbaugh/hannity/savage/o’rielly tactics that have been used for the last six years have been dragged into the daylight, exposed and shredded…. ?
Glad to see the “progressives” coming out in droves to show how truly ignorant they really are.
YouTube has the right to remove offensive submissions or hypocritical propaganda which those IDF videos are. Perhaps YouTube should either allow everything or else remove ALL offensive material and then they would not appear to be selective, biased or prejudiced in any way. Personally, I feel YouTube should not be a medium for propaganda, lies, hypocrisy, racists, bigots, hate messages and the like.
Bruce tosses more rovian dogma into the conversation…. thanks for continuing to prove my point….
Tom, #30
Your ignorance of history is truly astounding- or is your deliberate attempt to distort the truth
more than ignorance.
Your bigotry is appalling.
Bigotry is usually the hallmark of the ignorant. You prove the point.
who gnu?
Hi folks, I just found this site a few minutes ago. It’s not only fun it’s enlightening.
For example I just learned, from Jesus St Jesus, that Bush, Cheney Rove and all Republicans are the source of all the world’s problems. Well not all: Israel by refusing to lie down and die, under the non stop attacks against it by the Arab World, seems to present a problem too for this very simple bigot.
He would be very confortable in the slums of Rehran or Palestine where most think as he does.
Wait, maybe that’s where he is.
Some say that Israel should leave the occupied areas, some say that they are shoving the Jewish agenda down our throats, et.et.. I am not Jewish, stated for general purposes. Everyone forgets one thing: Israel, way back when, was attacked first by the Islamists and Arabs from all sides-unprevoked. The occupied areas were meant to be a buffer zone for futher attacks. Recently, Israel left some occupied areas, and what happened? The PAL moved rockets into these areas. PAL rockets are for one purpose only-TO KILL CIVILIANS: PERIOD. Israel is the only free country in the middle east, with them gone, it will not bring peace. The Arabs and Islamists will just fight with each other EX: Iran & Iraq. To all you Jew haters, Wake UP!
Joe: you should turn off Limbaugh and open your mind more often…. who knows what you might learn
Regardless of the fact that Youtube removed this footage, it is their right to do so. We
have never ever been shown the real truth concerning anything. This is because the
government controls all the media and we are only told what they want us to know. And
many times these “facts” are just not so. Keep the masses ignorant and you keep them in
control. But, I can only say, Woe to those that go against Israel whether they are right or
wrong. Read the Bible gang. A word from an un-educated country hick. I admit it.
I do agree PEACE
WOW, it’s good to see that the hosts of this site practices censorship as well, since a post of mine was not allowed to be displayed… typical hypocritical Republicans… Thank you again for proving my point….
EXACTLY CORRECT SIR!!!
Why doesn’t Isreal just blow them off the map and b done w it…..
they have fought there for eons and eons. i guess a few more eons,
wont hurt………
PEACE!!!!!!
Yes, read the “bible” rather than persue education in the world today. Base your life on a book of fiction that has been retranslated 1,000 of times into hundred’s of launguages and interpretations, each having a group of fantatical extremist followers that believe theirs is the one “true” word of “god”. And to think that people laugh at comic book collectors and fans of science fiction….
To Jesus St. Jesus……please put down the crack pipe
Moltar: Wow…… nice input. What’s next: “Yo Mama” insults?
Yes, but what if the Christians are right? I’ll pray for you anyway. I err on the side of love
and compassion. You have the right to express your thoughts as words on paper. And
that’s a good thing. This is a great country NO? It is a shame that we just don’t get to see
some other real truths out there and that we are force fed doctrines and told these are
facts. The fact that people are being killed everyday for their beliefs and the war between
the Hamas and Israel people is real and they are very passionate about it. It’s a Holy thing
and you may just not get it. There are atrocities coming from both sides as well as
compassions. But don’t we deserve the truth?? Thanks for your rebuttal JSJ.
They probably censored them as purely fiction. According to all the Israeli firsters, all those Palestinians are too stupid to even pick their own boggers. Yet it seems every Palestinian has a camcorder and knows how to edit video and upload it to YouTube, as can be seen from all of their posts showing Israelis constantly harassing them, stealing their land, destroying their businesses, killing them, beating their children to death with their bare fists, and even harassing U.S. non-Jewish citizens. And the Israelis, for all their smarts, technology and total control of the media can’t seem to get a decent video together. Poor Israelis, they’re just so misunderstood by all us dumb Goys, who, according to the all mighty Talmud, even the best of us should have our heads crushed.
What if Tolkien was right? Or Hubbard? Or Jim Jones? The fact is belief can make even the most rational of people irrational, and mass rationalization makes it no less true.
To Jesus St. Jesus: that was not meant to be an insult, just some advice. Why are you ranting about Republican/Democrat stuff on a discussion about youtube removing IDF videos? Focus, my dear boy, focus……..
Follow the thread, dear child….. Context is a good thing.
These Israelis are going to start up a WORLD WAR. The middle east has been a hotbed of violence and wars for 5 THOUSAND YEARS. These videos are made in an attempt to fire up American sympathy….we’re sick of wars; and I’m sick of seeing and hearing about what the Israelis and the Palestinians are doing to each other. Mel Gibson could have been right!
No shirt. No shoes. No service.
Hey Jesus St Jesus….I did follow the thread. Your first post starts with “Since the Republican party…” Again, what does GOP/Democrat politics have to do with youtube removing IDF videos?
I think your thread has become unraveled.
Wrongo whack job…. since this site specializes in hyping GOP/Dem slants in an attempt to push its agenda, all is fair. Get over it….
Dear Mr. Saint-Heysoose,
Is it Rovian to point out the ignorant anti-Semitism being posted to this blog by so-called “progressives”? Is it Rovian to point to the silence of the lambs concerning Hamas’ daily acts of terror on Sderot and Israel in general? Is it Rovian to say, as PEBO did “if someone was sending rockets into my house, where my two daughters sleep at night, I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that”?
Isn’t it MORE Rovian to parrot the “Jews-Bush-Cheney are the root of evil” party line? Don’t your posts, in fact, carry a much more Rovian rile-the-jews tone to them? Doesn’t Sandra Heycock’s post at number 65 show the ignorant anti-Semitism that I pointed out earlier, along with all of your “hey Jews are you stupid, it’s Bush’s fault” string of inanities. I posit, sir, that it does, and shall henceforth cease any intellectual back-and-forth with an unarmed man.
To JSJ, We all must have something to LOOK to, I look to something that has been
around for thousands of years. I don’t think that L. Ron is that old. I was just stating that
this is something that has been around much longer than you or I and was spoke of in the
bible, it has to do with two brothers mentioned there and the Holy Wars that is still
ensuing because of land. If you had read the book , you might have a greater
understanding of why the folks are arguing about this. Regardless if YouTube pulls the
video, we can look to this book and see where it will end. It keeps proving itself over and
over again. Nevertheless, the truth is all any of us want. Right?? Censorship in this
country is a bad thing. <
FUNNY! This article/commentary is talking about the IDF. The IDF is a terrorist organization itself. Just like Hamas it targets civilians in order to gain/secure territory for their people. Hamas kills Israelis to force Israel to give up land, IDF kills Palestinians to stop them from wanting to secure their land. IDIOTS! All of them. The bible is such a brainwashing lie, it’s so stupid like there is a God that created this whole universe in order to see if a group of people (jews) would listen and conquer land for a certain period of time. Such stupidity is reserved for “Dumbest Criminals Caught on Video”.
What gets me these days is the anger displayed by Republicans when their own tactics are used against them….. Funny and delightfuul at the same time….
Hey Materialist- shove it up your material ass.
The irony, of course, of this entire thread is that Noah never called youtube’s action “censorship”, nor did he claim that they had no right to pull the videos.
I support immediate and strong U.S.-led diplomatic efforts to urgently reinstate a meaningful ceasefire that ends all military operations, stops the rockets aimed at Israel and lifts the blockade of Gaza. This is in the best interests of Israel, the Palestinian people and the United States.
Its because the Jews are the one who are the terrorist in the area.
Thank you Jesus St. Jesus for confirming my suspicions. Anyone that resorts to name calling (calling me a whack job, ouch that hurt!!) shows their level of intelligence. Yours unfortunately is not that high. You should be proud of yourself for knowing how to use a computer. I’m going out to enjoy the day, so I unfortunatley won’t see your ill-crafted response to my post. But please do your best.
RCAR: Thank you. Millions have been holding their breath waitng for your input. We can now go about our lives….
First, PLEASE relax people, we’re all human beings here. Rather than submit a useless arguement (do you really think you’re going to change someones mind???), use your energies to post some fair, sensible solutions to what you perceive as the problem. Show the world your true intellect, not your primal anger.
YouTube/Google is not a news media outlet nor do they portray themselves as such. They are free to say/write/host OR NOT, whatever they choose. The benefit of being in a country where one is free to do just that. It’s not perfect, but there’s no other country on this planet with the incredible combination of freedoms AND potential for success. Those of us born here are lucky as hell.
As was said in an earlier post, if you don’t care for how YouTube conducts its business, then flip the channel, LEAVE. Find a site that agrees with your view or make one yourself, then tell everyone where to tune in for the “REAL” information.
Personally, I just wish all the killing would stop. All countries, mine included. Wouldn’t it be great if all the militaries were unionized and they decided to go on strike for unsafe working conditions………. Anybody disagree with that? (Braces for the verbal onslaught…bring it on. smiling) Oh yeah, Have a nice day.
Actually, I’ve looked for Hamas rockets being fired into Israel, and the only one that I could find was one that hit the street. It didn’t even blast a hole in the pavement, just left some black powder marks. What are they shooting, big fire crackers? Furthermore, it doesn’t show where it came from. If Israel is being hit, as they claim, on a daily basis, where the hell are all the videos showing this? All I’ve seen is some grainy, night scope videos shot from a great distance. Which bags the question. If they were able to take video of an alleged Hamas shooting rockets, why didn’t they take him out with a sniper bullet? Is it just me, or does a lot of this just not add up?
Moltar: You again prove my point that Republicans can not eat what they serve…. have a GREAT Day!
Israel shouldn’t be trying to persuade the World that it’s Ok to bomb the Palestinians. We all know that the Israeli response is way out pf proportion to what Hamas is able to do. Israel should be punished but won’t be. Too many blind and deaf Israel supporters around.
Some of you are poor sad people , what do you have to look forward to?? You insult one
another, you hate , you mummer. No wonder we are going to heck in a hand basket.
There is more out there and some of you just accept the lies because you just can’t see the
truth right before you. You are being lied to, there is a God out there and just because you
say it isn’t so doesn’t make it so. Do you REALLY think all of this is an accident?? The
censorship is there to convince you of untruths so you won’t find reality. Regardless of
what the censorship is about, lean not unto your own understanding!
Dee B: Just because you say it is so doesn’t make it so.
Jack D Ripper, that’s some great advice coming from someone who uses the nick of a famous serial killer of women.
JSJ, it wasn’t me who said it. I’m just the messenger.
the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip on November 5 that killed seven Hamas members started this….The incursion was in violation of an Egyptian-mediated truce between Israel and Hamas which had virtually halted violence between the two foes. as usual israel is responsible..as they have been for the last 50+ years
lis, oh no, don’t say that, remember, all we non-jewish people need to carry on the guilt of the holocaust because, it was ALL of our fault. And we need to pay, and pay, and PAY until it completely destroys our country. We need to send billions of more dollars to Israel so that every year, each Israeli citizen receives their free $5,000 check, not to mention all the billions in other aid.
Jack Ripehole: I’ll get back to you. I have to go “poo poo”.
Good Gosh, why not we send millions to every other people here on earth. I don’t hear the Irish complaining!! They have woes too.
Mr. USA, I believe the word you are struggling for is , “Gentile”. Are your Party dues paid up, Comrade? So tell me, how does Arab dick taste? Like chicken?
I can’t find any videos on youtube from the Palestinian viewpoint, either. Why can’t both sides have equal access to show their viewpoint to the world?
Until the Jews and the Palestinians gain control of the radical elements in their respective societies, there will never be peace. Lets hope that happens soon.
Dee B. Jesus Freak, you should watch the video on the Rape of Nanking, or what is still happening to the Hmong in Laos. That is if you can stomach to watch it. Of course you won’t catch any Jews sending them any help or aid. It is a well known fact that Jews HATE the Asians.
It’s not the guilt of the holocaust that is in question here. It wasn’t me or my family or my grandparents or great grandparents that did this terrible thing. We didn’t own slaves either. I think we were the slaves in a different country… Asia some time ago.. It is the censorship issue, regarless of what is going on it is and the powers that be stifling all the media.
Israel has been the focus of nations for centuries, the Bible says so. The Bible also says in the Last Days of this earth age, Israel will be hated by many nations , alas.. The history of this small piece of earth has dominated talks and discussions for centuries. Now in this century the prophesied conclusion is coming to pass. Israel is still God’s chosen piece of earth and when nations surround Israel as in making them stop trying to defend themselves by force, the end will come and Christ will return to this earth. Open your Eyes. Read your Bible!! Note: The Jew is only one of the orginal twelve tribes of the Nation of Israel,that is, the tribe of Judah. Do you ever wonder where the so call Lost Tribes are ? Also to Mr. Jesus St. Jesus, Your points are well taken, but if you read any of those 1,000 ‘s of translations of the Bible , you cannot overlook the fact that each translation comes up with the same conclusion that there is only one true God and His son will return to this earth despite what negative opinion this messsage might be to non-believers and cynics and scoffers in this world.
Have any of you watched or searched through the google or youtube videos? Thats what I thought. I have and I think everyone should do some more research themselves before making judgements. I like there videos. I’ve found all types. Alex Jones videos, 911 Truth videos, Videos about the truth that most of you can’t handle and others don’t want you to see. I could make a bet that most of you aren’t open minded enough to consider whats really going on in the world and much less be able to stay focused for 15 minutes without falling asleep. I made it through all those stages and so can you. Check out Ron Paul. Republicans and Democrats are sold out in America. Research how and why. Its all there for you to see. All the truth you can handle and more. If you get your news from cable channels instead of the internet then I understand why your misinformed. Better make time to study and research those videos that are there and you will see the truth. Will you except the truth is the question?
http://wideeyecinema.com/ http://thebigagenda.com/ Wake up! Freedom is under attack America! They don’t teach this in school now do they…… Your welcome for the links.
I’ve read all the posts here so far and can only say that most of you ( not all ) don’t know how to stick to the subject. Some of you have a brain no bigger than the birda at my feeder. What does GOP/DEMS have to do with this subject, nothing you fools. Some of you are so anti-jews it’s oozing out of your brains. Stay with the blog fools. As for Goggle, you may be goggling yourself right out of business with your censorship. If you want to run You Tube then leave the posts alone, you are ticking a lot of people off, and your ill-fated try at controlling the internet will only be your downfall
Well then I think it is a good thing I’m not Asian… well not a least for about 1000 years back. No, I don’t have the stomach to watch, but you are making the Jews seem like they cornered the market on violence. All nations, all creed , all people groups have atrocities. Read about the Zulu people. They were mean motor scooters.
Venita, AMEN sister, AMEN!!! <
The Jihadists have mastered the art of media manipulation. Friends of mine were in Jerusalem in the late 90′s. They were about 2 blocks from the wailing wall when they saw a comotion about a block away. Armed Palistinians firing in the air and above the heads of the IDF. When the IDF responded with gun fire the Palistinians took the rifles from the dead and wounded and stashed all weapons picking up rocks instead. Conveniently MSM crews arrived with cameras rolling to film the poor Palistinians being attacked and murdered by the evil IDF. With only stones to protect themselves with. Guess what made the evening news!?!
My friends happened to started rolling their video camera when they saw the conflict start. They contacted CNN to offer the truth. CNN bought the video from them. Thinking CNN was trustworthy they did not make a copy. Guess what never made the evening news!?!
This event was witnessed by over 30 people.
So, as in this current situation, why does the MSM wait on any kind of reporting until Israel is forced to respond!?! any guesses? I think the answer is very clear.
Why is it considered “racisim” to report truthfull negitive alongside truthfull positive stories about Obama or the illegal dealings of the Black Panthers or even Illegal Aliens, but it’s ok to talk about the evil Jews!
Enough is enough!!! I call on all Mensch to rise with one voice and demand the complete truth be reported!
My take:
http://copyrightsandcampaigns.blogspot.com/2008/12/youtube-removing-israeli-military.html
So if Hamas really wanted to mess with the IDF’s PR efforts, why doesn’t it just submit a bunch of DMCA notices on the IDF’s YouTube videos? Somehow I doubt that people willing to blow up both themselves and innocents in buses and restaurants will be deterred by the threat of lawsuits under 17 USC sec. 512(f).
I was only going back as far as the 1947 UN partition plan after the first world war, and arab -jew war……..a time when the majority of the population was arab…the first conflicts were around 538 BC…i didn’t want to go that far back…
Upon reaching 95,000 YouTube views, my video, Obama – Building a Religion, was officially censored as inappropriate for minors. Amazing…As Glenn Reynolds always says “THEY TOLD ME THAT IF GEORGE W. BUSH WERE RE-ELECTED,” we’d see political videos censored. And they were right!
This is a major problem that Google/YouTube has had more than a year to address — and they haven’t touched it.
I can’t believe I’m going to side with YouTube, but I don’t think it’s a bad idea if they refuse to host propaganda videos posted by governments – Israel or Hamas. (FYI – In the US our military releases “precision strike” videos to make us think all strikes are like that. For every smart-bomb hitting dead-center on the elevator shaft, there are 10 or more where the “smart bomb” misses and hits a house killing families.)
Yes, it is all terrible. Do we really need to see any of it? Do we need to be sheltered from it? Even though I believe in freedom of speach and media, YouTube is still a privately owned company. There should’nt be any government posting anything unless because it would tend to be biased. And these videos shouldn’t be seen by minor children.
It just isn’t healthy to have governments and nations intertwined with religion.
This idea is a hard one, there are no blanket statments. I tend to agree and disagree.
Grown men playing cops and robbers when they could be making the world around them better.
Infantile.
I bet you censor your comments.
Screw Israel. They are the source of more trouble than they are worth.
Are you kidding? The Anti-Defamation League, which is one of the biggest pro-Israeli organizations out there, and a scary one at that, as it has infiltrated peace groups, environmental groups, and commited at least one breaking and entering to get information on those it perceived as its critics, reently boasted that YouTube sees it as a go to source for information on getting hate off of the web. Therefore, that YouTube got rid of IDF propaganda, does not illustrate some pervasive anti-Israel bias. No. Not if YouTube sees the ADL as a special source.
You Tube, Google, etc. ….. The on-line, “evil empire” deliberately chose AGAINST ISRAEL and FOR HAMAS! MY GOD, when is this @#$%^ going to end? The America I grew up believing in IS DEAD!!! DO YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT IT? OKAY… I WILL! AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE, IS DEAD !!!! DEAD!!! DEAD!! HAS THE PEOPLE OF “AMERICA” REDUCED THEMSELVES TO EVIL, PATHETIC SLIME-LORDS THAT
R-E-V-E-L IN A-N-T-I S-E-M-E-T-I-S-M??? Beware…. your time is short and your punishment from Almighty God… a punishment, by the way, that YOU BROUGHT ON YOURSELVES…. will be severe AND eternal! You are winning many, many battles. HOWEVER, YOU WILL LOSE THIS WAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, THE GOD OF ISAAC AND THE GOD OF JACOB!
MAY HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST, MY LORD AND SAVIOUR, REIGN IN GLORY FOREVER AND EVER!
A-M-E-N !
Interesting!!!
So this website can basically do whatever they want with comments or submitted content, but how dare Google/YouTube! Sounds rather hypocritical to me.
Let’s “expose” the reality that Commentarymagazine.com openly offers itself as an advocacy organization while the Google/YouTube octopus pretends to be an impartial information service.
I expose, you decide.
The Cross & The Switchblade: Fool, Google and YouTube are Jewish owned and Jewish run. Google the word nigg*r, spic, gook, honkey, etc, and you will see nothing. Google the word “Jew” and it will come up with an offensive word search result. So you called it right, it is an evil empire.
This is very disturbing; when a site allows all sorts of “crap” to be shown yet deletes videos that actually have some value. Many people in the US are rooting for the jews as they finally spank these pathetic diabolic creeps who are a disgrace to mankind. These same creeps cheered our tragedy on 9/11… NO arab country wants these HAMAS creeps as residents or neighbors; they are ultra-cruel even with their own kind and they are beyond cruel with others.
CEASE FIRE, means cease fire for BOTH sides. Israel has continued to kill people in Gaza. Israel has cut power, food, and medicines to Gaza. Just three days after the CEASE FIRE was proclaimed, Israel killed another Cleric leaving his home. The blast killed another six unarmed people unlucky enough to be close to this Cleric. Killing a Cleric is the same as killing John Hagee, Jessie Duplantis, or Keneth Copeland for saying things against the current Presidend-Elect. The thing our media is not telling you is the current rocket attack is in response to an attack by Israel that missed the intended target and killed nine innocent civilians minding their own business.
micha elyi – Read this from YouTube’s terms:
They were enforcing their own policy, which is their right/job. Now you been exposed as a hypocrite!
Everytime someone or country does something that is not ‘okay’ or does not agree with the policy of Israel or Jewish people it gets labeled as anti-semitism. Why?
Seems like a double standard to me – and don’t label me as a anti-semit. I’m just pointing out the obvious.
Remember it takes 2 to tango – the Gaza conflict is 2 sides
Lets see. In November, before the “truce” expired, there were over 100 rocket attacks and numerous mortar attacks. And during the “truce” rocket and mortar attacks did not cease. Love how causation gets turned upside down. So sad.
Give the dame arabs their land back. Just because the antichrist (hitler) commited genocide to you guys does not give you the right to do it to others and stop hiding ynder the slogan anti semetic
This is the same YouTube that owes its viewership to the beheadings of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl. Just to be clear, according to YouTube those are acceptable and worthy of promotion. Unreal.
Poor Israel! No opportunity to tell it’s side of the story…as if all news organizations except Al Jazeera, Al Agsa etc are not replete with pro-Israeli editors, reporters, ‘analysts’, and academicians. One way to have a cease-fire is to stop resupplying the F-16′s, armaments and ordnance, Caterpillar Bulldozers, and Motorola communications networks. You can be certain that if both sides were evenly armed, negotiations and cease-fires would be more likely.
The Zionists have violated ALL UN resolutions concerning Palestine, starting BEFORE the PLO, the Authority, and HAMAS. Incidentally, Mossad was the clever creator of Hamas—as a counterforce to the old PLO. Now their creature is helping the Zionists to destroy even the two-state solution, which the Jewish fundamentalists oppose adamantly. Just wait until the mideast runs out of oil, or until the Egypian regime collapses. You ain’t see nothin’ yet…..OOPS!–I forgot, Ehud has the bomb- courtesy of the U. S.–just like Pakistan….
it’s painfully obvious how obama got elected just by reading these comments…
socialism is alive and well in america and they escorted a socialist leader into office
hamas and hizbollah are proud
american citizens would never defend the US like israeli’s defend israel…some of the rats here might throw rocks like hamas however…shameful
For those who play blind to the fact that Hamas is a duly elected government with duly inherit Rights to protect their invaded Land and Shall continue to fight the Criminal aggressors.
GOD BLESS HAMAS!.
youtube does not care about the tensions over in that part of the world. it’s crazy conspiracy theorists who always read into this crap.
i know for fact they don’t about this stuff. i personally know many people who work to take down videos at youtube. they simply have a policy and if they see something on that list, then it is to be taken down.
they do not pro-actively search out videos to take down– they are flagged by users then evaluated to see if it’s got a boob or certain kinds of bloody violence or something. do you really think some 20 something year old kid from the bay area who is neither israeli or palestinian has some sort of agenda? stupid!
nope.. they’re just people eating popcorn, watching a screen looking for any violations to take it down. they don’t even keep the sound on.. they don’t even really read the comments or the captions as they simply don’t have time. do you know the ridiculous number of videos that come through that place every day that has been flagged?
good lord.. what a dumb article.
Looks like most are back up, including the missile-loading one.
If you stand out in your yard and throw rocks at my house, I’m going to respond with 20ga rock salt. If it doesn’t cease immediately .40 cal S&W will be the next step up.
Jews are being much nicer than this redneck would be.
Why don’t we all just talk facts here. FACT: Almost 100% of the media, that’s television, movies, newspapers, magazines, and book publishers are Jewish owned & controlled. FACT: The Federal Reserve is Jewish controlled. FACT: Almost 100% of the banks that own the Federal Reserve are Jewish owned and controlled. FACT: Almost 100% of Jews in American politics hold duel American/Israeli citizenship. FACT: The man that co-authored the Patriot Act is Jewish. Now let’s see your friggin’ facts?
Solution: Carpet bomb Isreal and Palastine until everyone is dead. Establish new territory to be called “New America”. Build series of strip malls, McMansion Subdivisions, and Hooter’s restraunts. Repopulate with useless white trash imported from all over America. Repeat carpet bombing.
There, I just solved 90% of the world’s problems by wiping out 90% of the three most useless piece of sh*t demographic groups on the planet. More food, air, and water for the rest of us.
Trigger Happy: Don’t forget to include yourself and your kind in that trash heap.
Mr USA: Just what neo-nazi propraganda are you getting your “facts” from? Sorry dude, but you’re ilk are just as bad as the socialists. Fact: The world really is flat. Fact: Man never did walk on the moon. It’s a hollywood style hoax. Fact: Amerika is the great satan.
Now let’s see your “friggin” facts…
In the words of buggs bunny “what a maroon”.
JohnM: Your stupidity is immeasurable. Are these your facts? Fact: The world really is flat. Fact: Man never did walk on the moon. It’s a hollywood style hoax. Fact: Amerika is the great satan.
Furthermore, you can’t spell for sh*t! I have researched everything I listed. It’s obvious you haven’t research anything. All you’ve managed to do is make yourself look even more stupid.
With all the crap that You Tube shows daily, you’d think this would be nothing. I mean, especially with the vids of Americans blowing away Insurgents in Iraq, and the Insurgents showing American vehicles being blown away by IED’s. You Tube is not as powerful as they think they are. Just bowing to the pressures (or even physical threats, of personnel or buildings – don’t discount it) from radical terrorists.
Pat Travers: I think the point is this. It’s one thing to have some private in the Marines upload a video or two. It’s another thing when a government uses it as a tool for propaganda purposes. But don’t worry, they own CNN, you can watch it on the nightly news.
Mr USA: Are you really so slow as to not understand the irony of sarcasm!?!
“Researched everything”? Like I said from what neo-nazi book / web site / flyer / pamphlet…?
Mr USA (HA): It’s easy to spout “Fact, Fact, Fact”. Obama did it throughout his campain. even started a web site “fight the smear” and quoted his own Facts, most by the way are unsupported.
Mr USa
You are pathetic in your unbounded ignorance.
You spout all the lines every anti-semitic proctological nuisance spouts.
The problem is that you probably beleive what you say even though you seem to be too ignorant to check it out.
You just spout your foolishness and let it all hang out there so the rest of us can see what a nitwit you are.
You say that you have researched evrything you have listed.
If that is so then you are not stupid- you are simply dishonest.
JohnM: Are you really so slow as to not understand that I was insulting you? What an idiot! Listen a$$hole, apparently you do have a computer and Internet access, why don’t you look this up for yourself. Go ahead big shot, prove me wrong.
John M: When numbnuts Mr. USA says he was insulting you he, obviously, is unaware that one can only be insulted by one’s equals.
By the same token, it would appear that nothing anyone can say would be an insult to Mr. USA.
joe w & JohnM must be a$$hole buddies. All they can do is insult me, but they can’t prove me wrong. Use the Internet idiots.
It would appear that Jesus St Jesus is not among us. His Mommy must have called him to dindin. Oh well, I’m comfortable that he will be back spouting his childish foolishness tomorrow.
Joe W: Truth hurts and it looks as if Mr USA’s blood pressure is going thru the roof.
Read the posts Mr USA: We cannot insult you. It is not possible.
Did your Mommy teach you your language?
John M; You really have to be tolerant of creatures like Mr. USA. He began life with a serious handicap which he cxannot seem to overcome.
His inability to conduct a serious discussion in a civil manner is indicative of his handicap.
Be tolerant.
Mr USA: I totally understand your futile attempts at insults. problem is I’m not insulted. Oh Boo-hoo “all they can do is insult me” sniffle sniffle. Just like the big bad bully that got his nose broke by the skinny nerd kid.
Mr USA: Site your sources or shut up. it’s really easy. go to the web site you get each “fact” from, highlight the address in the address bar. right click and then click on “copy”. then right click in the comment space of this web site and click on “paste”. See!?! it’s easy… if you have actual legitimate sources to quote.
Joe W: I’m trying… I’m really trying to be tolerant.
When all of the bad people are obliterated, then we will rejoice.
Finally a solution.
John M; Thanks much. Honestly, I never knew how to do the copy and paste thing.
Now I know.
Wouldn’t it be nice if critters such as Mr USA ( can you visualize a skinny teen with zits and a superman costume?) actually knew history and didn;t have to depend on the internet for their information?
That’s what they have. Information – not knowledge.
The problem is that kids like him know next to nothing and are determined to prove it.
Happy New Year to you.
Does this sort of reasonong make it justifiable? Posting ‘you hit me first’ videos to explain away violence does not make any act of violence legel or excusable. Just do what you think is necessary, Israel, and stop looking for sympathy and supporters. Those who do support you do so anyway. Those that don’t are not swayed by your explanatory videos.
joe w & JohnM: My blood pressure is fine, thank you for caring. No, I am not affected by your insults. Sorry, I know you wanted that, but its just not so. Next on the agenda is this. I don’t have to cut and paste my sources; you do your own research. If it bothers you so much to hear the truth, than all you need do is prove me wrong. But apparently you don’t possess the gumption, or the intelligence to do this. So don’t come crying to me if you feel insulted, which obviously you both do, or you wouldn’t even bother to respond to my posts, which you have, and continue to do. Why?
MR USA: We respond for 2 reasons:
1: It’s fun
2: You won’t go away.
You are simply one of the unpleasant facts of life. You can be ignored but that’s no fun. Showing everyone how silly and immature you are is more fun.
Don;t feel badly.
We don’t take you seriously.
Joe W: It’s amazing! I challanged my own teenagers to find old copies of encyclopedias and compare the rewrites and revisions to our own history. Amazing even my 15 year old said it went from a factual writing style (pre-1950) to commentary style writing (post 1975).
Happy New year to you also.
And I truly mean this, Happy New Year to all of you this I agree with and disagree with. God Bless us, every one!
And I truly mean this, Happy New Year to all of you those I agree with and disagree with. God Bless us, every one!
There I corrected it.
John M:
Of all the verities in life, of only one am I certain.
My wife is calling me to dinner and I dare not not go.
All the best to you and yours.
joe w & JohnM: Do you really think I take you both seriously? And John, you give away too much of yourself on the Internet. If I were a huge prick like you and Joe, I would write something about your 15 year old. But I will leave those dirty tricks up to you two.
Mr USA:
Fact: Man never walked on the moon. Do your own research and prove me wrong.
Fact: The earth is flat. Do your own research and prove me wrong. PS. NASA is part of the great coverup. so don’t believe the photo’s.
Fact: BLAH BLAH BLAH. Do your own research and prove me wrong.
Mr USA: No of course I don’t think you take anyone seriously, except those brown shirts and klansmen you read about. Believe the lie, say it enough and becomes real to you.
Frankly, what Isreal does and continues to do is none of our business. Equipping, supporting, and funding Isreal has never been in the United States best interest. Look up the definition of “Rogue State”, they fit it to the last latter. They are unpredictable, violent, hasty, irrational, and just as out of control as the rest of the region over there…
I’m sick of our country pretending to be Morgan Freeman in “Lean on Me” for the troubled high school and it’s deliquents that make up the Middle East. We are barely a couple hundred years old as a country and we insist on injecting ourselves into 5000 year old holy and tribal wars, I’ll never understand it.
I am sure those castigating YouTube are memebers of the IDF propaganda or Zionist. Israel is killing a population, and wants to use the YouTube in justifiying its genocide and crime against humanity. YouTube did the right thing. The civilized world should not accept such.
James, the civilized world can be found in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Not at the death rallies you worship in Gaza. Remarkable.
For #29 (Mary) and #30 (Tom)
Mary, with all the Bush Administrations BAILOUTS of US Finance companies, it’s no longer a FREE enterprise country, understand?
Tom, you don’t remember how the US calvary and settlers destroyed the cultural, social and economic well-being of the original native american indian inhabitants do you? Would you accept being attacked by Indians who could claim that they are just reclaiming their land or would you expect your government to defend your life and property?
All through man’s history, territories have been taken over and becomes someone else’s domain which they typically will control and dominate unless forced to give it up due to international pressure. You say Israel is not trying to tell its side of the story, well just what does Israel need to be say when according to Eygpt, Syria, Jordon, and the PLO’s previous leader Yassar Arafat that:
“We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion… We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem.”
After the 1967 6-day war when attacked by Eygpt, Jordan and Syria, Israel took over land after being attacked and gave much of it back but kept Gaza and the West bank to improve their border security. Israel is surrounded by those that want to destroy it and you think they’re the only one’s manipulating the truth?! Perhaps you’d feel differently if your scalp was hanging from an Indian’s teepee.
Laughs at #35 J. Lichty while rolling eyes and shaking head. Dude, you will never live in a world where everyone is just like you.
Ah, the words of Jesus, still wise.
What it comes down to is YouTube is an American company, with rights to do as it pleases within its own judgement, just as you have the right to run your business the way you see fit. If you want to carry nuts but not bolts, then you can. Same with YouTube and its videos.
Like with television, if you don’t like the program, change the channel. In this day and age, all the info is out there – if not on YouTube it will be posted somewhere else.
Personally I would not be one to complain if all the war videos were taken down, but I don’t like to watch such violence. I simply choose not to. I know it happens, and find it all disturbing, so many (thousands) years of fighting, bloodshed and hatred. These horrors are not all claimed by jews and palestinians either, this is a species issue, a humankind issue. I will support efforts to work for peace and human rights but I don’t want to have to watch the kill videos first.
But then I read some of the comments left here – they prove the tendency of humans to degrade rapidly from discussion into conflict.
I wonder why Israel didn’t film their navy ship ramming a humanitarian aid vessel?
If anyone hs the video, upload it so we can see the other side that Israel hides from the world.
Just because a dog growls at you does not give you the right to kick it to death in the street.
Israel always seems to be the on who shoots first. They shoot first at people who they’ve essentially imprisoned on thier own land(no wonder they’re angry). Considering that these people have nowhere to run, it’s not at all surpirising that they act like cornered rats. If Israel didn’t corner them in the first place there wouldn’t be these problems! Israel brings misery upon itself, and blames everyone but themselves.
America always falls for Israel’s lies, because here in America we have our own set of prisoners on their own land – the Native Americans.
It seems silly to suggest that YouTube is, as a whole, anti-semitic or particularly influenced by the desires of Hamas. There is no business reason for it to be so, if nothing else. Further, there are many IDF videos to be found on YouTube. It might be worth getting information from YouTube on why it removed the particular ones you believe it did before hammering them.
The situation over there is very tricky. All sides claim to want peace, yet all sides constantly wound the others. It did not begin this way, and, this way, there can be no good ending. There is a time to take up arms, but that time must end in times to live without such for it to mean anything. Rather than throwing bombs of blame, and real bombs at one another, perhaps the groups concerned should focus more on resolving the core issues. At one point Israelis and Palestines lived peacefully, intermarrying and working together. Now… everyone suffers, and the peoples are held back from many forms of progression by this. For the sake of these peoples, and the progression of humans as a whole, it should be recognized that, whatever the scars and wounds caused by each side, the time to throw down arms and pick up the tougher mantle of rebuilding and progressing has come.
Blast the whole Gaza strip and be done with all those savages! I’d bomb every one of those inbred terrorists! The cowards dont even show their faces, always hiding behind masks.
dear all
listen to the godess
degradation is most of your spewing if not all
there is a time for peace if we choose it
warts and all please learn that we are brothers and sisters
HARI-BOL
ChenKai, get your head out of your @$$. Isreal had HUNDREDS of missles thrown at CIVILIAN villages before they responded.
Let me throw hundreds of fire bombs at your house and see if you dont respond.
To #143 Mr. USA and to #181 ChenKai
Mr USA Says:
Why don’t we all just talk facts here. FACT: Almost 100% of the media, that’s television, movies, newspapers, magazines, and book publishers are Jewish owned & controlled. FACT: The Federal Reserve is Jewish controlled. FACT: Almost 100% of the banks that own the Federal Reserve are Jewish owned and controlled. FACT: Almost 100% of Jews in American politics hold duel American/Israeli citizenship. FACT: The man that co-authored the Patriot Act is Jewish. Now let’s see your friggin’ facts?
First off, Mr Ignorant-USA, the internet is not exactly a source of unqualified truth and if the Jews owned as much of the finances and media that you claim they do then we’d never have heard or read anything about Palastinians or the ongoing conflict in the Middle East now would we. If they were control of all those banks they’d simply cut off the money and they’d starve out of existence. Your so-called facts don’t have any basis in reality but like so many people that belong to and believe in their party (Republicans, Democrats, KKK, etc) they swallow whatever propaganda they’re indoctrinated with.
To ChenKai:
When confronted by a dog growling, it will usually either back down or attack you. If it attacks you, as Israel is being attacked, you either fight back or get mauled or killed. Do you even know the events of the 1967 6 Day War when Egypt, Jordon and Syria all GROWLED and ATTACKED Israel? Israel was facing 3 growling dogs desiring to wipe them off the map. As far as Israel cornering anyone, well, moron, they’re surrounded by enemy nations. No one other than someone of your limited intelligence (and Mr. USA) would presume a tiny country like Israel can corner anyone and are under constant threats and attacks and so they fight for their lives. Try reading my other post at #178 about the American Indians.
WHY is it that anyone not a screaming Israel supporter is automatically labeled an anti-semite? The term isn’t even correct, as those of Arab descent are also Semetic peoples.
If someone had stolen your land and subjucated, killed, or driven off all the prior residents – As was done to Palestine in 1948 – wouldn’t YOU try and get it back by any means possible?
STRAVROS
YOU were no more knowledgeable when you were Jesus St Jesus.
You are an ignoramus.
Tommy G:
You’ll notice that the Israeli vessel did not sink the so called humanitarian vessel nor did they fire at it or injure anyone aboard. What do you think would have happened if the Israelis were trying to bring in a ship load of stuff to Israel when the Arabs had her surrounded?
The vessel in question held a load of anti-Israel gnomes like Cynthia McKinney of Atlanta who is an avowed anti semite. They hads warneed the vessel’s crew, repeatedly, to turn around.
The activist Hamas supporters refused so they were physically encouraged to do so.
No one was injured. Hamas would have killed all aboard if the situation was reversed.
Your obvious prejudice blinds you to the facts.
You’d sooner spew hatred and lies than face reality.
joe w
your staff is even smaller than your inferiority complex exibits
Stavos: I apologize…
I got the wrong name on my post.
Your post was excellent.
Once again, my apology
Jen Lang
That’s funny. Inferiority complex – Me? Oh sweetie, if only you knew how wrong you are.
I do admit to being confused about my Staff. I don’t know what you mean.
My staff has nothing to do with this.
They work 9-5 at my offices and not here at my home.
Were you making a poor attempt at being offensive?
Google is not the friend of democracy nor for the freedom of people in the world from tyranny.
Lets put them all in Jail for life, for crimes against humanity.
Jen Lang
The word is exhibits.
In your case sweetie, it is not a complex.
Jen Lang: I just read your post about hairy balls. ( you misspelled it.)
Do you have some sort of fixation with male genitalia?
jw
no offensiveness implied unless you warrant it needed
just seems most if not all replies are pissing contests
Corpses don’t like mirrors.
To # 187 Caveman and #188 Joe W.
To Joe W.
I’m not anyone other than myself you MORON. It appears you see anyone that disagrees with you as the same person using aliases because, hold for it, hold… ohh, my god, they must be afraid to use their own identity and need to use other names since you’ve made them ashamed to post – get real, idiot. As for knowledgeable, please point out what I said that isn’t truthful. All you’ve posted is nothing but drivel.
To Caveman,
It appears you truly are a neanderthal. Just how far back should we go to identify just who the legitimate population of that land is? Consider this:
In the Qur’an, the term الأرض المقدسة (Al-Ard Al-Muqaddasah, English: “Holy Land”) is mentioned at least seven times, once when Moses proclaims to the Children of Israel: “O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.”
So according to Allah, the Israelis are the ones that the land belongs to and who are you or anyone else to claim otherwise…
To Joe W,
I was too quick to respond and didn’t see that you had mistaken my name for someone else’s post. I apologize for my insulting reply since you didn’t mean to attack me.
I fought the lawn; and the lawn won.
youtube just won’t wear my class ring.
Stavos: It seems that even when we agree on these forums we wind up being nasty to one another- if only inadvertently. I’ll be more careful henceforth.
Oh yeah, lets pull out quotes of questionable origin from biblical times. Like anyone really knows what the hell went on back then.
Meanwhile, there are millions of indigenous residents of Palestine who were ALIVE in 1948 when land that had legally been in their families for centuries was stolen from them by the Zionists.
Any Americans out there? Guess what…it’s YOUR tax dollars paying for the entire Israeli military, and much of the rest of their gov’t and infrastructure. Ask yourself WHY Americans are allowing themselves to be guilt-tripped into paying for the sins of the Germans in the last century. Ask yourself WHY the sins of those same Germans have been visited on the Palestinians since 1948.
We DON’T pay taxes so innocent kids in the Gaze Strip can be murdered by the Zionists.
Hi Joe W.
LOL, too bad the middle east conflict couldn’t be resolved so easily. Words can indeed rile the blood but they can also create understanding. Although it takes willingness on both parties to be receptive.
When it comes to blind following a prejudice or adherence to one’s religion though, words from the other side never are considered as anything but lies or false. It’s amazing when one considers that Roman Catholic priests have been sexually molesting their followers and that the bible’s scrolls were edited by a select few with a bias and slant to teach moral lessons they wanted the masses to follow.
What’s so hard to understand is how a main theme of love between God and man could be turned into crusades or jihads to destroy instead of allowing the greatness of God to attract all men to worship him (or not and supposedly miss out on going to heaven). Only man would suppose and impose insistence that all others must accept their deity as the true God and feel that their God couldn’t take care of punishing sinners himself instead of having others kill men, women and children of a different belief in whose God is the true God…
To Caveman – so dumb even a caveman can be excused for not getting it.
Hmmm, you base your argument on who was alive in 1948 but this dispute has been going on way before that and you want to consider bible references or Yassar Arafat and others statements as questionable? As if your slanted one sided biased statements have any merit?
You ask if American’s are allowing themselves to be guilt-tripped about our taxes going to Israel…just when have taxpayers had a say when politicians ignore citizens and only listen to lobbyists. It’s not like they ask our approval before they spend tax revenue. Your nonsense about sins of the Germans being visited on the Palestinians – why don’t you go back to the sins of the Romans and the Greeks as well, or the Assyrians…or the Cavemen, LOL.
You simply are too stupid and your ridiculous posts reflect why “Caveman” is a very telling name for you.
Typical of one who can’t refute the facts and must resort to insults – and incredibly lame ones at that – to try and cover up their ignorance about historical events.
Caveman said: “Meanwhile, there are millions of indigenous residents of Palestine who were ALIVE in 1948 when land that had legally been in their families for centuries was stolen from them by the Zionists.”
Millions? for centuries?
What documented facts do have to show us?
You mean after 1918 when the British moved Syrians and Egyptians into the area during their League of Nations Mandate to provide a home for the Jews. When the great powers reduced the mandated territory to less than a third of what it was and created the state of Trans Jordan to house the Hashemite clan after what had been promised to them by the Brits (in what is now Saudi Arabia) was stolen by the Saudi clan.
What I find hilarious is this premise in these comments that the mainstream media in North America is anti-Israel.
To Caveman, the missing link (and missing most of a cerebral cortex it appears)
First off, it’s the “Gaza Strip” not “Gaze Strip”.
Secondly, for one who claims that I’m ignorant about historical facts it’s laughable that you would consider that the Palestinians as “indigenous residents of Palestine”. Talk about being ignorant of history, I challenged you to look back in history if you want to talk about who the original people of this land might be and who took what from who down through history. You obviously don’t know the meaning of indigenous. You say “who knows what the hell went on in the past”, well, you don’t even seem to know recent history as post #209 points out.
Perhaps you’d like to include the Japanese as part of the visitation of sins on the Palestinians like you invoked the sins of the Germans? I guess you forgot that they were part of the Axis powers or even Italy for that matter. Ohhh, I know, let’s blame Napoleon and Genghis Khan while you’re at it. Perhaps we should also blame Geico (the insurance company), lol.
How about boycotting YouTube; I’ve got links . . . . If everyone wrote them it wouldn’t impact them, but they might realize how many people they’re angering.
Hi Cynic. Your basic premise is wrong thus so is your conclusion. In 1948, when the UN created the state of Israel, 400,000,000 Arabs in surrounding states decided to attack and destroy the fledgling nation. They advised the Arab inhabitants of what had now become Israel, to leave their homes and get out of the area in order to avoid interference with and injury during the coming war. About 600,000 Arabs did just that. Then, wonder of wonders, Israel won the war.
Meanwhile the 600,000 displaced Arabs, who had voluntarily left their homes, were forced, by their Arab neighbors, into refugee camps. The loving Arabs refused to allow the refugees to live in Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia or any of the Arab lands. Keeping the refugees in concentration type camps was a better propaganda tool for them.
The arab residents of what they call Palestine , 600,000 of them, who left under the advice of their arab neighbors, now claim to be 6,000,000 who demand the right to return to Israel where they would immediately become citizens and overrun the Jewish homeland thus putting it out of existence.
Obviously, the Israeli’s will not allow this.
Interestingly, while all thius was going on, the Arab nations forced over 800,000 Jews, who had been living in those lands for 2 millenia, were forced to leave their homes by the Arabs.
” No Jews allowed “.
They settled in Israel where they had to srat life over again since, Nazi style, everything they owned was confiscated by the Arabs of their former homelands.
You may not like it Bub but every word is true and proveable.
Iran & its courageous Hama supporters will fight Israel down to the last drop of Palestinean blood. To further demonstrate its adherence to the “Religion of Peace”, Hamas just passed a criminal code legalizing crucifixion.
To me this is nothing new. The news media paints Israel as the agressor even though over 10,000 rockets have landed in Israel since they left Gaza. Not sure if you can call firing rockets as a cease fire. How can there be any peace when Hamas and other do not recoqnize Israel’s right to exist. Thier aim is to expel every Jew from the land of Israel. They will accept nothing less.
What is so wrong in watching terrorists going to meet their 72 virgins–only ugly ones need apply. The Arabs want to kill Israelis and destroy Israel. But, the world, overcoming their 60 year reluctance to display their inherent Jew-hating, is putting pressure on Israel to stop defending itself against the latest nazi-like dogs. So, kill the terrorist dogs and allow Jews to live in peace and stop being so politically correct. No one ever fought and died to live next door to us and the Palestinians are no different.
Rafi
Please do not refer to terrorists as dogs.
My dog is cute, peaceful and fun loving and does not kill just for the heck of it.
Refer to them as what they are -Savage, sick, Animals
Israel will always be the evil one in the eyes of the pansy world.
Most of you don’t seem to get it — YouTube doesn’t decide what to publish — the users do! If folks in Gaza have cell phone cameras, they can put videos up immediately. If folks in Israel have the same tools and see things they wish to share, they can.
Not only doesn’t YouTube censor, they should not! — and, if others think that the videos appear to be one-sided, those folks should counter them with content, not complaints.
Dear Joe,
Sorry. You are right. Why insult dogs, who are, after all, man’s best friends. Even animals act the way they do out of instinct. No, those terrorists are pure evil. Give my regards to your dog.
Go Israel! As long as those scumbag terrorists shoot missiles, Israel has every right to defend itself.
If anyone thinks Utube is biased, try looking at the reports from Reuters on Yahoo.’
Reuters is generally anti-Israel but they are becoming so pro Hamas it just ain’t funny.
Well, the only side that we get in the media is the israeli, we never hear about the palestinians. To me an even handed coverage would be appropiate.
Ri Milron
Your reading sources must be very limited.
Just about every media source, Tv, Print and radio has been telling uys what is going on in Gaza in detail and every report mentions that children and women were among the dead ans injured.
Those same reports fail to mention that most of the women and children were living in the homes of the targeted terrorists or were their close neighbors.
Is you complaint truly that you do not see enough pro-arab reports?
Everything I read tells about protests around the world denouncing Israel- BIG SURPRISE.
Few reports speak of the thousands, literally thousands, of rockets launched indiscriminately, at Israeli civilians by the Arab terrorists of Hamas. These animals do not care where the rockets land as long as they kill Israelis.
How many reports have you read, in the media, about how Iran is supplying sophisticated weaponry to the terrorists of Hamas so that Iran can kill Israelis without risking any of her own people.
You complain about one sided media… SO DO I>
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