One Response to “Pour Out Thy Wrath”

1. Neo says:

   January 1, 2009 at 6:29 pm

   For Hamas, there is no strategy or endgame, except the obvious .. stay in power.
   Besides their entire gig is based on the use of force. They have no “peace plan.”

   Consider the similar case of Robert Mugabe .. he made the “breadbasket of Africa” into a “basket case,” but that is just one of his failures. At the same time thought he, in an example of an African success, has managed to stay in power for over two decades .. at all costs.

   Hamas seeks a similar outcome .. staying in power .. at all costs.

   Given Hamas’ Plan A, the annihilation of the state of Israel, isn’t going as well as they would like, it’s quite clear to any correct thinking person that Hamas needs a “Plan B” or at least a “Plan B” that doesn’t involve 72 virgins.

   Perhaps, some day some adventuring reporter may ask the leaders of Hamas exactly what is their “Plan B” ?
2. Stuart Koehl says:

   January 1, 2009 at 8:04 pm

   The cycle can be broken. That it exists at all is due to the willingness of outside actors to spare the Arabs (and particularly the Palestinians) from the consequences of their folly. One would have thought, once the Middle East was decoupled from superpower competition, that the U.S. would have enough common sense to allow israel to finish what the Palestinians had started–yet at every turn, we pull their chestnuts out of the fire and allow them to recover to fight another day.

   Because the Palestinians are wrong–they really can’t lose a hundred times. They can only really, really lose just once.
3. huxley says:

   January 1, 2009 at 9:48 pm

   Why does Hamas need a Plan B? They are Muslims–they aren’t thinking in terms of decades, but centuries.

   And if Hamas , combined with all the other wonderful Jew-hating Muslims on the planet, keep biting at Israel, while the rest of the world looks on as though the two sides were morally equivalent, Israel will eventually falter, then be overrun and obliterated as promised in the Hamas Charter.

   SK — You are wrong. Palestine can keep losing and losing. Unless Israel can finish off all Muslims, along with the Palestinians, there will always be more Muslims to demand the obliteration of Israel. It is the Israelis who can only lose once.
4. Dane Dahl says:

   January 1, 2009 at 10:06 pm

   The WHY? of Terrorism in Islam…

   I am an American living in Asia. I am not Moslem, but I am a writer and historian. I would like to share some information with you: information concerning Moslem violence and terrorism, and why the United States and its military allies must continue to be vigilant, and when appropriate, respond to individual acts of violent Islamic terrorism with relentless, overwhelming, and deadly force.

   This information may help you understand what is going on not only in Israel and the entire Middle East as well as India, Pakistan, and China, along with other parts of Asia, Africa, Europe, and (soon) even the United States. In the not too distant future, Moslem extremists hope to involve you and your loved ones, as well as a vast number of other innocent victims in a man-made catastrophe: an organized and violent calamity of biblical proportions that is based on teachings that were deliberately added to the Koran, decades after the faith was founded.

   Disregarding the social, economic, and political factors that serve as underpinnings for Islamic terrorism, I will address the more fundamental issue: the religious teachings that sanction violence against non-Moslems and AGAINST ALL WOMEN. Here are seven verses from the Koran. These scriptures have been translated into modern English.

   …murder, crucify, or cut off the hands and feet of non-Moslems…Chapter 5 Verse 33 – The Koran
   …create terror in the hearts of non-Moslems …cut off their heads…Chapter 8 Verse 12 – The Koran
   …and fight non-Moslems until Allah’s religion is the only one…Chapter 8 Verse 39 – The Koran
   …of all the loot you plunder from non-Moslems, 20% belongs to Allah and to Mohammed. Chapter 8 Verse 41- The Koran (Author’s note: Loot included kidnapped female sex-slaves.)
   …Take as many as four wives from the women you are sexually attracted to … Chapter 4 Verse 3 – The Koran
   …God has made men superior to women… Virtuous women are obedient. If a woman becomes disobedient, beat her. Chapter 4 Verse 34 – The Koran
   …When it comes to marriage, Allah makes it legal for you to take as wives, women whom your right hand possesses. Chapter 33 Verse 50 – The Koran (Author’s note: This verse talks about the “loot” non-Moslems call… kidnapped female sex-slaves.)

   Most people in the western world have never heard of these astonishing scriptures, but they are in the Koran … along with a relatively short list of others, just like them. This is important because not all Moslems are the same; there are two very different types. Militant Moslems view these verses as commandments from their god – a primitive desert god, from an ancient land of heat, sand and scorpions. Militant Moslems think these teachings apply to life in the Twenty-first Century and they try to use them, regardless of the suffering and mayhem they create, whereas moderate Moslems ignore such verses because they were uttered a long time ago, when the Arabian peninsula, from whence Islam came, was a wild and savage place.

   Historians tell us these terrorist teachings are part of a cluster of ferocious beliefs that were deliberately added to one specific part of the formerly peaceful and tolerant Koran. These startling changes were made, decades after Islam was first founded in the Arabian city of Mecca. By the time of these changes, the original (and real) prophet of Islam was dead. Thereafter the religious headquarters was uprooted and moved to the city of Medina. Islam mutated; under new leadership it turned cruel and predatory.

   In fact, historians also tell us Islam didn’t simply fall from the sky as a full-blown religion, but rather evolved from a persecuted sect of Jewish-Christians. The first Moslems in the city of Mecca were actually part of a larger group of Jesus’ followers called the Ebionites.

   Ebionites were peace-loving disciples of Christ, who shared their wealth with fellow believers, and taught that a man should marry only one wife.

   In fact, women were much more independent in the Ebionite Jewish-Christian days of Islam. They were more influential too. I say this because my research has determined that the first prophet of Islam may have been someone other than Mohammed: I believe the first prophet was a very special Arabian princess named Khadija the Pure. Khadija was Mohammed’s first and only wife for twenty-four years. Khadija was fifteen years older than Mohammed. She was considered to be fabulously wealthy, and she was Mohammed’s employer, before she became his wife.

   Mohammed on the other hand, before he became Khadija’s employee, was an impoverished youth who had been raised as an orphan. Ultimately Mohammed worked his way up to a position as Khadija’s business manager. With time, Khadija grew fond of Mohammed. She even married him. However, Khadija was a liberated woman. In fact, Khadija was the one who initiated the marriage proposal to Mohammed! And after their wedding, she never allowed Mohammed to take other wives, or have other women into her house.

   Throughout her lifetime, even though Khadija had already converted to Christianity, Mohammed’s first and only wife for twenty-four years remained an important Arabian princess in the ruling family that controlled worship in the Kabba Temple, with it’s pantheon of more than three hundred pagan gods and goddesses. Clearly, in the early days of Islam, Khadija was a person of great influence in Arabian society: and clearly Mohammed, her husband… was not. http://www.TheMoslemInstitute.com

   After Khadija’s untimely death from a terrible illness, Islam was hijacked by a cartel of corrupt men, headed by Mohammed himself. The faith was abruptly relocated to the city of Medina and new beliefs were added to the Koran; at the same time, old beliefs were deleted or relegated to unimportance, and the religion was changed beyond recognition. In the end, Islam abandoned many of its Ebionite Jewish-Christian teachings. Women suffered the most: they became the focus of repression, scorn, and violence.

   Today, although moderate Moslems are loath to admit these ideas, and many of them are terrified to voice criticism of their militant Islamic brothers, because of fear that violence will come to them and their families, the fact remains that these added teachings are not the original beliefs of Islam; they are amendments: They are the terrorist teachings of Islam.

   In the near future, militant Moslems hope to unleash a Jihad: a Moslem holy war upon the non-Moslem world; not only upon Israel, the United States and Western Europe, but also throughout parts of Asia, including India and maybe even China, and Japan. Because the terrorist teachings of Islam sanction treaty breaking, deception, and war, as well as looting, murder, kidnapping, terrorism, and human slavery (including sexual slavery), so long as these crimes are directed against non-Moslems, there is no limit to the things these fanatics can do. But the scariest part: Militant Moslems will do everything… in the name of their primitive desert god.

   Once victory is attained in this violent holy war, these fanatics believe Allah will bless them with harems of kidnapped sex slaves taken from destroyed cities and nations, as well as enormous fortunes of loot plundered from the non-Moslem world. They believe this because of the terrorist teachings that were added to the Koran. These terrorist teachings even say ransoms paid to Moslem terrorists, to redeem stolen property (like hijacked oil tankers and cargo ships) as well as kidnapped men, women, and children, are part of the Islamic loot these vicious criminals are entitled to receive.

   These same terrorist teachings even allow Moslem men to force their kidnapped female sex slaves to marry them in Moslem wedding ceremonies, and bear children for them: whether the women want to or not. Terrorist Moslem teachings mandate only two requirements: The women must come from Christian or Jewish backgrounds, and secondly, if the unfortunate women resist, these same terrorist teachings say the Moslem husbands must beat them, and imprison them in their own homes.

   If the Moslem fanatics die while committing these crimes against humanity, as an eternal reward for their cruel deeds Islamic extremists believe their fierce desert god will admit them to paradise and bless them with luxurious palaces filled with riches and populated by seventy-two virgin brides, who are exquisitely beautiful, yet modest enough to struggle to control their unbridled lust to have sexual intercourse with a dead Moslem terrorist.

   With these stinging indictments against terrorist Islamic doctrines entered into the record, it is important to remember that the majority of Moslems are moderate, decent people who love God and practice acts of charity and kindness to their neighbors, both Moslem and non-Moslem. Such moderate Moslems recognize these violent teachings as obsolete and out of place in the Twenty-first Century. In the author’s opinion, in spite of enormous cultural and ideological differences that exist between the non-Moslem world and the followers of Islam, it is with this moderate Moslem majority that any long-term resolution to the Islamic terrorism issue will ultimately be negotiated.

   However, given the massive population increases taking place in the Moslem world, at a time when poverty, chaos, criminality, and religious fanaticism are burgeoning, the numbers of Moslems worldwide who declare themselves militant is increasing; the influence their growing networks of terror cells exert on Islamic governments throughout the world has reached crisis levels. Because of the terrorist teachings of Islam, modern civilization faces a nightmarish future; the attacks on Mumbai, India, the World Trade Center in New York, and the subway bombings in Spain and London are simply previews of things to come. In this ferocious Jihad, nuclear and biological weapons are almost certain to come into play.

   To paraphrase Winston Churchill: The road before us will be long and dangerous and terrifying; the United States and Europe and Asia must be resolute… and take courage. We must work together to neutralize militant Islamic movements… and if necessary… wage war against the governments that sustain them. At the same time, the non-Moslem world must also nurture moderate Islamic states and establish strong alliances with them. The very survival of our civilization depends on it.

   Are you are interested in learning more about an array of Islamic topics including:
   1. Who are The Seventy-two Virgins of Islam and how did they become part of militant Moslem dogma?
   2. What role did the Ebionites and Khadija the Pure play, in founding the original (peaceful) religion of Islam?
   3. What role does militant Islam play in modern human slavery?

   Visit The Moslem Institute website: http://www.TheMoslemInstitute.com

   Regards,
   Dane Dahl
   Author and Historian
5. Stuart Koehl says:

   January 1, 2009 at 10:07 pm

   >>>SK — You are wrong. Palestine can keep losing and losing. <<<

   No, not really. Any day it so chooses, israel can wipe out all armed Palestinian resistance and expel the remaining Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza. From that moment on, there would be no more Palestinians, just more Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, Lebanese, etc. Israel could, if it wanted, create impermeable and secure borders to ensure that the Palestinians stayed out and at arms length. I seriously doubt that, presented with such a fait accompli, any Arab state would risk war with Israel to support the Palestinian cause. After all, they didn’t do so between 1954 and 1968. The Palestinians didn’t figure in Egypt and Syria’s decision to go to war with Israel in 1973. Basically, the Palestinians were always pawns in the hands of the other Arab states, to use or to sacrifice as determined by the interests of those states, not any desire to ameliorate the condition of the Palestinians (which is why those Arab states kept the Palestinians living in squalor, instead of integrating them into their own societies–a stupid move, as the Palestinians were among the more educated and entrepreneurial peoples of the Middle East, and could have contributed a lot to Arab prosperity).

   Contrary to what most people think, the correlation of forces in the Middle East has never been more strongly in Israel’s favor. Israel can easily defeat its Arab neighbors, either singly or in combination. The Arabs know this, which is why they do not overtly challenge Israel anymore (though they talk a good game for domestic consumption).

   In the present conflict, the number of states opposing Hamas greatly exceeds those supporting it. On Hamas’ side are Syria and Iran, neither of which is well positioned to provide assistance at this point–or inclined to do so, if it means doing more than just bluster.

   The only thing that keeps Hamas alive at this point is Israeli forebearance. Hamas probably knows this, and will shortly begin taking steps to preserve its leadership and critical cadres. But in a land where face and prestige are everything, Hamas is losing face not only with the Arab states it needs for protection, but with the Palestinian people, who are beginning to see it as the author of their misery. As happened with al Qaeda in Iraq, when the ocean dries up, the fish suffocate. Islamists invariably overplay their hand.
6. Dan says:

   January 1, 2009 at 11:03 pm

   “[H]oping it will achieve some lasting good…………….”

   And that’s what it’s all come down to.

   Military measures nobody has much confidence in, and supporters of Israel “hoping,” merely “hoping” that something, anything remotely durable might result.

   Are you guys comfortable with that?

   Does that satisfy you?

   Are you guys comfortable with the dubious morality of military measures that nobody has much confidence in actually advancing Israel’s strategic interest?

   So you’re hitting back, just to hit back.

   This “war” has now become but another in a recent series of first rate Israeli farces.

   The purpose of war is to make for a more perfect peace.

   How?

   How for instance has America won her many wars?

   Has America much success with hearts and minds campaigns?

   Think now of the success that America has had when it scorned the very notion of hearts and minds, and simply went out there and pulverized an enemy, starved enemy populations and killed off as many of them as they could via the euphemism of strategic bombing.

   That’s how America has earned the peace which we now enjoy, or waste.

   Israeli military measures are so limited in scope, so pathetic in relation to actually advancing Israel’s strategic interest, that they are borderline immoral, because they’re so damn insignificant.

   Yes, insignificant.

   Insignificance is what we’re all looking at.

   6 months from now few will recall this. Just as few recall the botched operations in Southern Lebanon.

   And one thing more, specifically, about the IDF’s performance in Southern Lebanon in ’06.

   It wasn’t Western leaders or Western public opinion that was the main feature of the miserable operations in Southern Lebanon.

   THE SALIENT result of all that drama was how incompetent the IDF appeared, and worse, how commonplace cowardice was amidst the troops of the IDF.

   Yes, plain, old-fashioned cowardice.

   Particularly, certain units from Tel Aviv.

   Not of course the various commando units. But the others who were involved.

   And again. How could that not be the case?

   Who is willing to go out and put his hide on the line confronting killers when your own Prime Minister might be in some man-hug with their leader but a few months down the line.

   Israeli diplomacy is WEAKENING the tone of their military rank and file.

   So let’s stop pretending that when we’re discussing the IDF, we’re still discussing that force which turned the tables in ’73.

   This group is nothing like those men.
7. Barry Meislin says:

   January 2, 2009 at 3:03 am

   Well, one can dream (right Dan?)

   As for Here’s hoping that this time it will actually achieve some lasting good, this will not be possible as long as the Palestinians actively desire that Israel disappear.

   The violent among them want to obliterate Israel. The moderate among them believe in the one-state “solution”.

   Well, one can dream….