Megan McArdle exposes, hilariously, a CNN blunder last night about which I was entirely ingenuous. It came when Soledad O’Brien interviewed the focus group convened by CNN in Ohio of 32 undecided voters. I took her at her word, and so did several million others, I imagine:
Soledad O’Brien polls the 32 “persuadables” by asking them to indicate, by a show of hands, who they thought won. She calls the vote for Biden “overwhelming”. The magic of Tivo allows us to freeze frame and count: 11 or 12 for Palin, 12 or 13 for Biden (some people are hard to see).
I’ve heard of wearing blinders, but this is ridiculous.
Unbelievable. Maybe his pal Mike Steele will smooth it over for him.
In a way, we WERE cowardly.
We refused to subject Obama to an appropriate strict scrutiny when he was running for the Democrat nomination, and when he was running for the Presidency.
And the reason for that was precisely because he was black.
WE NEVER examined his 20 plus years sitting in the aisles of that despiscable bigot, and hate filled lunatic, Rev. Wright.
We NEVER reviewed the fact that he was the greatest achievement deprived candidate in American history.
And again, we never let ourselves really think about what this man’s candidacy meant, and we never did that because he was Black.
So because he was Black, a man who never would have gotten within a stone’s throw of the Presidency secured the Presidency, and did so because of his skin clolour.
So yea Mr. Holder, there’s cowardice out there, but it helped Obama, it helped Colin Powell before him, it helped Condi Rice, another who was wildly overrated, it helped Thurgood Marshall, who was a legal lightweight, it’s currently helping Donovan McNabb, and it’s helping Holder himself.
“I have no idea what he could possibly be thinking”
Regarding the real agenda of Obama-Holder. 90%+ of Afro-Americans voted for Obama and he’s the first AA president. Holder the first AA atty general. So guess what, their #1 priority is,the economic well being of their constituents. Now look at the economic,employment #s of the AA community,they’re at Depression levels. The Economic policies of this administration would logically favor the group that put them in power,which coincidentally,is the group with the biggest problems in our economy. This isn’t racist;this is political logic,and there’s nothing new here,except the new guys are in power.
Maybe, maybe not #3 – but what the Hell does any of that have to do with what Holder said? As for you own argument, can you point to the campaign speech where Barack Obama promised to treat his Administration first and foremost as a chance to divy up spoils to his prime constituency? How many electoral votes do you think that platform would have garnered?
I think someone was a coward in allowing the Marc Rich and FALN pardons to go through.
What Dan said.
Well, pardon me, Mr.Holder!
There’s certainly a cowardly refusal to discuss the terrible effects of the racist drug war.
Dan, you forgot Clarence Thomas on your list, a legal light weight if there ever was one.
#4,
Testy, testy, Holder said,”—the need to confront our racial past and to understand our racial present, and to understand the history of African people in this country — that all endures,” the attorney general added.
They are confronting,understanding,and enduring,that’s code for aid to the Black Community. As for political promises LOL. Look, Bush’s constituency was The Masters of the Universe,and he took good care of them,nothing new here.
It’s reparations, stupid! I’ve suspected since I learned ACORN was heavily involved in the presidential election that one of this president’s primary objectives would be to implement reparations, and that IMHO is what is going on with his upside-down home rescue policy announced today. His other objectives of course are to weaken us militarily and otherwise, but indeed he will be the great leveller domestically as well as globally, with America no longer a great nation.
Holder complained that white people tend to socialize with whites, blacks with blacks. Too bad he doesn’t understand what Malcolm X understood: “I saw that people who looked alike drew together and most of the time stayed together.” From The Autobiography, p. 344.
“I have no idea what he could possibly be thinking other than to throw crumbs to the liberal professional civil-rights lobbyists and perpetual-victimization crowd.”
Jennifer, isn’t it very possible, given the opinions he’s expressed in the past, that this is a statement of just how he feels? He might be happy to also please the two camps you mentioned, but there’s no good reason to believe he’s not a partisan of both camps.
Holder was an awesome choice, and his are powerful words. There is no question that what America wanted when it elected Obama was a man who would carry the torch of social justice. It looks like we might finally have the right man at the Justice Dept.
Notice Holder did not say “you” have been cowards. He said “we” have been cowards. It is a difficult, painful, often divisive topic that polite people tend to avoid. Unfortunately, the perpetually outraged set, like Jennifer Rubin, who need to hear the message most, are the least capable of absorbing it. It’s an evolution thing.
As for 2, the problem wasn’t that you didn’t get to shout AyersWrightRezco often enough. The airwaves were saturated with it. The problem was that those smears were bogus. Everyone read the Kurtz stories, everyone saw the Hannity hitjob (based largely on the fine reporting of a whackjob anti-Semite). They were heavy on innuendo and virtually substance free. Kind of like Contentions.
Let’s give Eric Holder credit here it is due.
Now when somebody calls you a racist, you call them a “coward”.
Works for me.
Holder is an idiot, his defenders are even bigger idiots. Didn’t we just elect an african american as president? I thought everyone rejoiced in breaking that barrier.
Dan
Why throw Donovan Mcnabb in there?
You took a perfectly good post and made yourself look stupid.
CK#4 – had it exactly right.
Nothing more really needs to be said.
Dan, you made a good point, namely that many a significant number of liberal white Americans, seeing a Black American within a few strides of the White House, felt a moral imperative to vote for Obama. I meet some of them, we all probably did, and we certainly heard the wacko warnings about riots in the street from white liberals like Erica Jong.
That said, many whites, despite what Holder believes, thought Obama was better presidential material than McCain(however foolish and reflexively anti-Bush they were).
But why do you then go on a tear and target Colin Powell, Rice, and Donovan McNabb, as affirmative action appointees. I don’t speak out of fondness for the first two- Powell’s problem, though, was being someone of the limited vision of Brent Scowcroft and James Baker, while Condi Rice, out of lack of moral fibre, returned, prodigal daughter-like, to the State fold for the last two years. They didn’t get their positions because of Bush or Karl Rove or whoever’s cowardice. As for Dondovan McNabb, what are you talking about. He’s been a great quarterback who’s experienced some of the downs most quarterbacks have.
I don’t mean to wail on you here, but the anti-affirmation argument can only be made- and making it is so hard because accusations of racism perniciously follow- by avoiding some blanket and unwarranted condemnation of Blacks who’ve made it.
I’m still amazed at the response from the Caucasian community (as well as some from the other ethnicities.) The statement was that in the open and honest dialogue between ethnicities – especially as it applies to black and white, that we do not engage each other. Rather, we’ll talk amongst ourselves – and some of it pretty nasty – especially some of the things I heard down here in the South during and after the election! In fact, that’s the only time it comes out – when nasty stuff gets said – and then it barely makes any sense. But real, intellectual (synonym: intelligent) dialogue/discourse/conversation/dialectic seldom makes it out in the open. There are, indeed, small areas where this gets discussed. But the vast majority ignore it, like it will disappear somehow with the advent of a bi-ethnic president. – let’s get real, okay? We talk to and with each other – or we skulk about with innuendos like some of the posts above, and make outright nasty remarks when no one else hears – except for the anger unreasoned, as stated above. Mr. Holder is correct. For the record, I am older, Caucasian (Irish) and an intellectual (intelligent). Peace. Let’s talk.
The whole object of PC thinking is to nip any candid and constructive dialogue in the bud.
#18
Stop beating around the Bush. Dan is a bigot. See, Holder is right. We fear turning on the light because then we have to acknowledge that we still have a bad infestation of racist roaches. Easier to keep the light off and pretend they aren’t there.
Shmoopy,
No.
Thomas isn’t a Scalia, and he doesn’t have the legal mind of a Brennan, {who though Liberal, had a legal mind of the first rate} Thomas IS unique.
Thomas is slowly but surely recalling the notion of Natural Law, and allowing that to inform his Constitutional analysis. So Thomas is a SERIOUS scholar, and he does have something unique to offer.
Now you guys can differ on Thomas on that, {as many do when it comes to Natural Law}. But Natural Law had a place within the founding of our nation, and the formation of our prime legal documents, such as the Declaration and the Constituion.
As for Marshall, even his victories as an advocate were foregone conclusions.
#19
I applaud you optimism, and I wish you luck, but I’m guessing that you are about to get a lesson in virulent racism. In Contentions land, up is down and false is true, so people like you and Holder are the racists.
And as for McNabb, {some asked why I threw him in there} I consider him a fraud who has been carried by a fawning media. Which is why he immediately came to mind when I was tossing out some others who I deem fraudulent, such as Powell. Though it’s a toss up who I consider more a fraud, Rice or Powell. Probably Rice.
Holder’s comment was really about 14th Amendment Marxism.
The Legal Left is DEAD serious about that.
Just in time .. a cartoon that’s racial ..
http://www.nypost.com/delonas/2009/02/02182009.jpg
.. or is it ?
Its reparations. This is just the start. Look at the apologist here on this blog for Holder’s comments. He said “we”! wow, how inclusive of him.
The point is that the media told us that Obama was behind in the polls because America is racist. Obama was elected, and, it turns out we are all cowards. No change.
Obama said Jews were nervous about him because of his funny middle name. Jews supported him by 80% and, shockingly, Obama is throwing the US into the Durban conference. No change.
The concerns about Obama during the campaign were real, but the media and the Left, silenced that discussion with charges of racism. Who are the real cowards? I think the truth is truly coming to light.
Would you like a serious discussion about race? OK. It is about hucksters getting in the way of real advancement. It is about an increasingly smaller group of white bigots who thankfully are getting drowned out. It is about people failing to realize that any group in the majority in any specific area can be racists – (yes that means black people can be racists too). It is about laws that divide us and provide excuses for self defeating characteristics to be explained away. Until the black community will shout away a Sharpton or a Jackson, it is about a suspicion that a greater number of black people really don’t like white people than is generally let on. It is about a president who attempted to transcend race, but is driven by his own racial heritage, and about his wife who is angry and bitter and expects others to not strive to be middle class, all the while she picks up $300K phantom jobs once her husband gets elected to public office.
I would love to just throw it all under the truck and be done with it. But I doubt our current president will do anything to stop it. Right now race is all about creating a victim, preferably a black one, in order to beat down the politcal opposition. We are so far away from Dr. King’s dream it is sad. I know racism exists, but I have never really been able to understand why anyone really cares if you are black or white. Holder is just fanning the flames. I have an idea, how about quit worrying about it. Everybody. I am not dismissing history, I know what was, but also know that now isn’t then.
The AG ought to know that calling someone a “coward” falls into the category of “fighting words.” It’s as though this Administration, like so many of its boosters (and especially the sophomores who like to visit this blog’s comment threads), is determined to instigate a violent reaction to repeated and escalating insults. You almost get the idea that they would like it, but I don’t think it’s conscious. I think they really are pathological insular fools who deserve to be defeated on the merits of their arguments, but who are even more likely to end up defeating themselves through their unchecked self-regard – hubris – a characteristic that gets passed down from the top.
Ben, Yes, there’s racism in the US. Now tell us about an African country that does a better job than the US of providing rights and opportunity for racial minorities. Don’t feel compelled to mention all the African countries where variations of genocide and ethnic cleansing have happened or are happening today.
In addition to there being an African-American President and an African-American AG, we’ve had two successive African-American Secretaries of State, a larger-than-ever Black caucus, a plurality of major American cities with African-American mayors, at least one African-American billionaire, a bunch of African-American centimillionaires followed in turn by hundreds of mere millionaires of African-American descent, a disproportionate number of America’s most successful entertainers and pro athletes who are African-American, the highest level of prosperity that African-Americans have ever enjoyed (including a disproportionately high representation in the ranks of the federal bureaucracies, where the rreal power is), a relatively free and easy relationship between African-Americans and other ethnic (including whites) groups, and all this by a people that represent no more than 13% of the total population.
What exactly do those who purport to speak for Americans of African-American descent want from the rest of us now?
Mr. Holder’s right, though we could do without the Kumbaya, let’s-all-get-”diverse” together stuff. People often gravitate toward those with whom they have most in common, and we’ve used skin color as a proxy for so long it’s hardly a wonder people sort themselves by it.
We will see if Mr. Holder and his associates really want to talk “bravely” about race, or whether, as his reference to differential health care and the like, he really means he wants to continue, yet more aggressively, the monologue of race-based demands that long ago ceased being worth listening to.
Like Obama, Holder speaks with forked tongue. He calls for a candid conversation between races, about race. What he really means is that the injustices of the past still stoke new grievances in the present, which racist (white) America is going to be called upon to redress. Here is a false proposal: to look objectively at the relationship between the races. But it has already been determined that every persistent weakness within the black community has white racism to blame.
In my own experience attending a Seven Sister’s college and teaching in an inner city elementary school, African Americans colleagues make assumptions about white persons. These work to justify their aloofness and hostility towards whites.
Charles Murray had nothing but nice words for Obama during the campaign. A coward, I guess. Btw, has the President appointed any dark-skinned blacks to high level jobs? Just asking. (The First Lady doesn’t count.)
This is less important than many other things, of course, but it is typical of the boilerplate leftism of this administration, and the insulation from reality of that leftism–Holder’s comment could have come at any time during the 70s, 80s or 90s–nothing every changes for these people.
I wonder how many commenters on this blog have kids in little league (any sport), certainly in any larger town or urban aread. Where I live, black and white kids play together all the time without ever giving it a second thought (black and white coaches, referees, etc., as well). Why would it be better if we all spoke about “unresolved racial issues” while cheering our kids on? Wouldn’t there be something surreal about that?
NeSS, while there’s such a thing as white racism, there’s no such thing as the Caucasian community or Caucasian ethnic group. Come on, that has the culturally blind and, historically inaccurate sound of the paranoia Rev. Wright trades in.
As for the negative feelings of some in one group for another group, facts on the ground- and the passage of time- often do more to purge bigoted feelings than contrived and coerced conversations.
Ben, thanks for post #14.
If liberal Democrats have been rightly forced to answer for Vietnam and its aftermath, the right wing has never been called to account for its ugly history during the civil rights era.
Other than (maybe) William Buckley, has any prominent rightwinger ever apologized for having bitterly opposed, say, LBJ’s efforts to force Alabama to allow blacks to register to vote?
Holder’s right. A lot of cowardice in this country in confronting race.
Only he shouldn’t have said “we” when his real target was the Republican party.
#29
“Ben, Yes, there’s racism in the US. Now tell us about an African country that does a better job than the US of providing rights and opportunity for racial minorities.”-Ed
Wow, really? I thought moral equivalence was anathema to conservatives. Because I can name a country with racism worse than the United States, the racism that exists in the United States shouldn’t be criticized? Wrong is wrong. Just because the murder rate is higher in Houston than it is in Buffalo, doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t worry about murders in Buffalo.
That’s about as lame as an argument gets. We should be better than everyone else. We are the United States, and we should always be striving to be better than we are. I thought you conservatives believed in American exceptionalism? Turns out I’m a far better conservative than you are. Maybe that’s my problem with conservatives. They just aren’t anymore.
This is the kind of BS I feared when he was nominated/confirmed. People got so wrapped up in the pardon business that they ignored other characteristics that Holder has exhibited.
I have a suggestion for Holder, and it goes for a number of posters; how about each individual lives his/her life as they see fit while respecting the rights of their fellow citizens to do the same? Suppose we are free to associate with whom we choose, but are encouraged to treat each and every person with whom we come in contact with the same respect and dignity that we desire for ourselves? (I said encouraged, that means without punitive threats.)
If we mange to do the simple things I have suggested our society will have made a quantum leap over every previous society throughout human history, as well as the majority of those existing in the world today.
That happens to be the way I try to live and I do NOT need any lectures from Eric Holder, Barack Obama or Commentary posters for that matter, about my attitudes, or lack of courage on racial matters. Frankly, I think most Americans try to do the same; and I don’t blame anyone for being pissed off to hear or read this crap.
“The Caucasian community”
Do people really talk this way?
Just throw in the words “narrative,” “hegemony,” and “power relationship” and you’re half way to giving an academic lecture at a community college diversity training retreat.
On a more substantive note, WTF is the “caucasian community”? Is it a Benedictine monastery or Hugh Heffner’s “Girls Next Door”? Is it Matthew, Mark, Luke and John or George, Paul, George, and Ringo?
37, I don’t know that I’m a conservative, you’ve prejudged me. I’m glad that you seem to agree that the US is less racist than all African countries. Yeah, we’re trying to improve, e.g. $850 million to Obama’s campaign—not bad for a bunch of white racist roaches. Yeah, racism should be criticized, but if you think that would produce black advancement then you don’t seem to have much faith in black people acting on their own behalf.
Jennifer,
Holder’s right. That racism is strong but denied can be proven:
If Obama was white he would have beaten “Bush on steroids” McCain by at least 65% to 35% in the popular vote. Yet, Obama beat McCain by only 53% to 46%, at a time when the country was imploding by Bush policies.
Now that the first AA president was elected, whites are smugly telling blacks to take a hike with any complains. I see that you belong in that category as well as most of the resident neocons.
Hey Big Picture, you are right. I am smugly telling you to get over it and live your life.
“Complains”? Who the hell doesn’t have complains? Deal with them; nobody owes you freedom from complains. I am not any more interested in your complains than you are mine–and there is no earthly reason why you would be interested in mine. But, if you are let me tell you about my left hip; then there is the constipation. . .
Oldflyer,
Do you deny that what I said about the election is right?
I presented a simple numbers argument. If you don’t like blacks complaining about racism that’s your right, but the fact is, racism is still there no matter what you say.
I’m fascinated by this discussion; those protesting the continued existence of “racism” imply it’s an undesirable attitude whites hold toward blacks. I’d assumed, when Holder issued his challenge, it was an invitation to discuss racism in all its manifestations–including black antipathy to whites, the assertion that there are “black” mores and “black” conduct, and the persistent belief on the part of some blacks that they, for some reason, have an enduring claim to victim status and superior moral standing. Surely he meant, by his admonition to stop being cowards, that whites should feel free to say, shorn at last of PC inhibitions: “Thank God I can admit publicly, finally, how sick I am of hearing about the iniquities whites inflicted on blacks. Let’s talk about the black role in the slave trade, black slave owners, and black responsibility for black dysfunctionality. Let’s have a real conversation–or let’s all shut up about race and get on with important things.”
#41 is dillusional. Neocons are leftist’s boogey-man.
maynard,
Certainly, racism can be black attitudes toward whites as well as the other way around. Holder is saying that generally people are afraid to touch this issue.
I think he is right. Another even more striking example is how people are afraid to call on Israel’s actions even when they are brutal and horrific. In general people are not very brave.
Is that a crime? No, but in the long run they destroy us morally and then structurally as a nation.
Well well well, after reading the comments, I’d say Chairman Oboma has really delivered on that Unity thing–NOT. 4 years of an Al Sharpton wannabe as AG. I’m laughing at the fools who voted for this guy.
Ah, Big Picture, linking America’s racism and Israel’s aggressive self-defense. You are so brave to play right into the hands of the Hamas PR machine. Did you check those numbers from the most recent violence before posting? I think you should. Take a look at the IDF breakdown of civilian/terrorist numbers, and look up the definition for “useful idiot”
“useful idiot” Me?
No, useful idiots are the Am people going along with the Zionist propaganda machine afraid to utter a grunt. In deeper are the useful idiots, neocons, who blindly support Israel though it is destroying their souls.
The problem with your analogy, Big Picture (aside from the wackiness of the “soul-destroying” trope) is that it lifts a page from the loons who claimed Bush had turned America into Amerika, and dissent was suppressed everywhere.
Except, of course, that the people making the claim were dissenting, and not thereafter disappearing into Bush’s camps. As you, and too many others, are hardly “afraid” to denounce Israel, endlessly and tiresomely, however wrongheaded you may be. There is no shortage of Israel-bashing; your only complaint is that you and yours have not yet succeeded in sinking that small democracy, though not for want of trying.
The constraints on honest dialogue about the matters I mentioned are considerably more real; even so, they are hardly soul-destroying.
I suspect most of us on this blog (and in this country, and in the world) are quite capable of taking care of our own souls. Questioning the redemption of others is a pretty desperate strategy. I will point out, though, that Big Picture’s #41 post “proving” the existence of American racism is thoroughly demented. We should really look at that and consider what it tells us about the habits of thought of leftists. Are there really people who believe that numbers they make up about how the election would have gone under some conditions arbitrarily selected by themselves is a “reality” that others somehow have to address? On the other hand, I suppose I can play the same game–if Obama was white, and white guilt and the euphoria of breaking the color line in a Presidential election were removed from the equation, McCain would have won the popular vote 52-47. No, wait, that’s not quite right–let me recalculate. OK, I’ve got it: the correct number is 51.8-47.2.
Adam – BP is specializes in embedding tendentious presumptions in his posts that always circle back to his unacknowledged biases. Just last night, he was blaming the expulsion of Germans from the Eastern Reich on Roosevelt and Churchill‘s “shameful decision to appease Stalin.” Now, amidst the usual sophomoric certitudes and melodramatic moral condescension, we get his reading of the election results. Because BP is so unshakeably convinced of his presumptions, no matter how tenuous, no other explanation is possible for the relative closeness of the presidential race other than that, even in victory, he and his hero are still victims!
Yes, and it’s just a more extreme version of a very common way of thinking. The Left has always thought within its own self-constructed circles–the fact that the world doesn’t conform to their norms is proof of their critique of the world. (It goes back to Rousseau and Romanticism.) It is very satisfying to nurse such world-historical grievances. What is frightening is that even being in power does not seem to break open the circle–and I’m not referring to BP here.
What is an “African American” supposed to be? Am I supposed to believe that all Blacks are from Africa, or that all Africans are Black? Maybe every brown American who claims to be “Black” holds multiple citizenship in America and all of the 55 or more countries in Africa? Maybe they aren’t racially mixed? Maybe the fact that the average American Black is 30% White doesn’t matter to the race hustlers?
Or maybe it’s all a load of $hit.
Until colonial Europe changed the demographic map in Africa with modern medicine, the majority of Africans were “White.” North Africa is still predominantly non-”Black.”
Eric Holder is as much an African American as the half White Obama.
The notion that a country that elected a “Black” man to the office of President needs to castigate itself for imagined anti-Black racism is asinine.
F^ck Eric holder.
In 64 Johnson beat Goldwater by around 62 % to 37%.
Goldwater is better than McCain/Bush.
Obama is better than Johnson (judging from people’s reactions).
Therefore, the 65% to 35% if Obama was a normal candidate (ie, white). Since he got only 53% to 46%, we can infer that there is a large percentage of votes based on race and not on merit.
maynard,
Quote:”As you, and too many others, are hardly “afraid” to denounce Israel, endlessly and tiresomely, however wrongheaded you may be.”
Yes, I can denounce whoever I want. Did I say otherwise ??? Who is assuming ?
Yet, your yawning response to Israel’s horrific deeds is the attitude that has slowly led our country to accept torture for about 1/2 our population. Imagine that, 1/2 the people accept torture. Thirty years ago, when this country still had some soul, this would be unthinkable.
Big Picture, you may have a point, since torture to the point of brain-melt is the most charitable explanation for your cognitive problems and memory loss (“Did I say otherwise???” Well, yes: “…people are afraid to call on Israel’s actions…”). Certainly you could cite your syllogism in #55 as evidence of a disability. This discussion is not fruitful. You may have the last word, but please increase your meds.
In 1964, LBJ’s vote was greatly enhanced by public reaction to JFK’s assassination, so it’s a thing unto itself.
I would dispense with BP – he is just winging it, much like our new president. The number of white people who in response to poll questions felt like they wanted to vote for a black man for president was not insignificant. Obama is so far to the left had a white man had those traits even McCain would have beaten him. Now, can I prove that? Nope. But at least it has a plausible logical foundation. Unlike his analysis. And obviously his knowledge of Goldwater is just about minimal. Leave him be, he adds nothing.
Good advice JEM (59). I was about to craft a response, but will let it go.
I will say that it is disconcerting to confront such twisted thinking on a blog/forum such as Contentions. Just imagine what it is like on the radical sites. Oh my!
That’s what I love about this blog: sprinkled among thoughtful comments, like pidgon droppings, are the rants, illogical propositions and, frankly, insane eruptions of the likes of BP, Hurf, Chester, Lester, Hartman and others. Inevitably, seeping out of their thought processes oozes the realization it is all about the “Joos.” Heh!
One question: What program will correct the destruction of the black community resulting from out-of-wedlock births and fatherless children?
So you people won’t respond to my real points but only bash me as a brain melt , twisted thinker, etc. Shows who has the real substance.
To further show that white prejudice is at play, note that Obama and Hillary both had fairly similar positions on most issues. Obama was able to beat her in the primaries in the more liberal states. In the more conservative states he had a hard time. Many professional analysis say that this was due to white people refusing to vote for a black man.
While one of you attributed Johnson’s big win due to Kennedy’s assassination, I content that today economic meltdown is a far more hot issue and people would have voted for Obama if just to get distance away from the Bush policies. That was why I used the word “at least” 65% to 35%. In the end he got only 53% to 46%.
As for the continual ho hum attitude to Israel’s misdeeds, this attitude has degraded the people in Congress as well as the average American. It is at a point where we actually gives Israel new deadly weapons and they test them for us on live human beings and not a squeak from Congress. Congress has an obligation to insure that Am weapons are not to be used on civilians and used for defense use only. That’s the stipulation. Cowards is a good name for people like that.
I agree that BP doesn’t deserve this much attention, but I can’t let this moment pass without remarking that his comparison of the ’64 and ’08 elections is one of the most childish imitations of grown-up political analysis I’ve ever seen. I’m sure that high school teachers see its like and worse all of the time, but I’m not a high school teacher. Anyway, it’s the kind of thing that someone with very little understanding or experience of the real world would come up with, and it makes me wonder if BP isn’t a bright but annoyingly pretentious and voluble 6th Grader.
excellent post, CK.
Big Propaganda,
President Obama received a majority of the so called White vote because White Americans tend to be anti-Black racists? (I wrote “so called White vote” because Whites do not vote in blocs–unlike Blacks and Latins.)
Brilliant deduction. Almost as brilliant as your latest anti-Semitic rant.
quote:”excellent post, CK.”
Right, excellent post with NO details and all bashing.
You guys are in denial and are cowards with respect to race and Israel.
A couple Of Stories About Race And Cowards…
There are a few issues about race today and they involve a chimpanzee and an Attorney General who can best be described as an ass.
The first story is about a political cartoon that uses the horrible incident of the 200 pound chimp that attacked a woman…
check this out…
this is mine…