The mystery of what the administration knew and did both before and after the Benghazi attack continues to deepen. A former official in the Bush administration emails me a list of questions that need to be answered:
1) Why did the Libyan delegation have inadequate security?
2) Were there political or ideological factors that influenced the security decisions?
3) Why was it Susan Rice who spoke for the administration on the Sunday shows? Did the White House choose her, or did Hillary Clinton push her forward? Why was it not Clinton, who had the responsibility for the decisions, rather than Rice?
4) Rice categorically stated that there was no terror attack; she blamed a demonstration, and the video. Who produced the TPs (talking points) that she worked off of? The Intel community? The White House?
5) What information/considerations produced the TPs?
6) When the attack began, what were the specific logistical and political considerations behind the decision not to send in a rescue team?
Today’s hearing before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which too often devolved into partisan rancor and point-scoring, did not provide answers to these questions. There remains plenty of work for both internal and external investigators looking into the sequence of events which left four Americans, including our ambassador, dead and our consulate in ruins.
Ah, details details. Rome wasn't dismantled in one day. The hearings have just begun. n nThe important thing is that the State Department is finally in the dock. America hating, Zion hating old boy network at State hasn't hasn't been so rattled since Tail-Gunner Joe Mccarthy not inaccurately suggested that Foggy Bottom was infested with Communists. n nGalloping Anglophilia, Communism, Arabism, any ism that undermines democracy and weakens America is catnip for the old boys at State. Ambassador Patric Kennedy cites 35 years of failed policy and incompetence as a badge of honor. Likewise Ms Lamb. However egregious the failure, however many lives are lost, State never accepts blame and no one at State ever gets fired. n nRecall that these hackneyed blowhards in striped pants not only didn't predict the collapse of the Soviet Union, they were negotiating away American power to the very minute the Berlin Wall fell. Then there is State's failure to predict or adequately prepare for the devastating attack in Beirut that killed more than 200 of their own people. Nor did State have any inkling of the coming terrorist attack on all of us on 9/11/01. n nState has blithely evaded blame for countless failures since WWII, not least its failure to support the establishment of a Jewish homeland in 1948. Has the State Department called it right even once in its history? What are we paying these jerks for?
Galloping Anglophilia? Made me laugh! Does anyone admire the English these days? Rather the English are on their knees – as usual – to the arabs (and obama.) The governing classes are like moles, they see nothing but if it feels good, do it! Magna Carta was NOT a declaration of equality, free speech or whatever, it was a list drawn up of every single piece of land in England and who owned it. so that William and his Nordic Normans could get down to dividing it up amongst themselves.
sec of state is the perfect cover for an inept pol such as clinton. she will never be held accountable. that nasty word is to be left for the conservatives when they leave the toilet seat up.
There is an old saying that the purpose of the foreign ministry of most nations of the world is to promote its government's interests to the world. The purpose of the American State Department is to promote the world's interests to its government.
Susan Rice was somewhat more artful than saying there was no terrorist attack. However it got parceled out the message had three parts (whose nuances could be tweaked to suit the audience–until the whole kit and caboodle became "Inoperative") : n na) Muslim indignation and Islam-gone-wild behavior is perfectly understandable when the Prophet is defamed (if not always technically "excusable" per se)–Christian and Western arrogance, not Muslim chauvinistic sensitivity is to blame; n nb) if their perfectly understandable outrage morphs into killing our ambassadors and blowing up our embassies, well that's wrong and certainly couldn't be the responsibility of the injured Muslims in part a)–that could only be the work of senseless "extremists"; n nc) since Al Qaeda ended the day President Obama parachuted into Pakistan with a knife held between his teeth and took out bin Laden, those "extremists" couldn't be Al Qaeda related, or organized "terrorists" with an ideology or a strategy and pre-planned agenda; they were just miscreants who tote around RPGs and hijack understandable demonstrations against Prophet defamation (see a and b). In America they'd be knocking over 7-11's.
Max, n nall of these questions where asked multiple times today … the State Dept drones refused to answer …
The Sinaloa Federation launched the Bengazi attack to undermine Obama's leadership. The Sinaloa Federation is composed of several factions including American, Israeli and Lebanese. Under the leadership of Eric Holder the US Justice Department has been attacking the Sinaloa Federation successfully. They want a friendlier administration in the Whitehouse. nI have filed a civil RICO lawsuit against the Sinaloa Federation in the Northern Judicial District of Ohio 1:12 CV 2501. nJoaquin Guzman Lorea, Ismael Zambada Garcia, Darrell Edward Issa, Charles Ellis Schumer, Orrin Grant Hatch, Robert Swan Mueller III, Cesare Frank Figliuzzi, Douglas H Shulman, Jose A.Gonzalez, Robert T. Bennett, John Richard Kasich, Edward Fitzgerald, Thomas P. Perciak and others known and unknown, are members and associates of the Sinaloa Federation AKA the Sinaloa Cartel, AKA the Federation a criminal organization whose members and associates engaged in: (a) the illegal trafficking of cocaine and marijuana; (b) the laundering of drug proceeds; and (c) acts of violence, including, kidnapping, torture and murder of those who lose or steal assets from, are disloyal to, or are perceived as enemies of the Sinaloa Cartel, and which operated principally in the United States of America, the Republic of Mexico, the Northern Judicial District of Ohio and elsewhere in the United States. n
Get some help . . .
Michael, this is fascinating information. In the future, have your briefs professionally typed in Microsoft Word. Crayon will not get them the attention they deserve.
"Galloping Anglophilia, Communism, Arabism, any ism that undermines democracy and weakens America is catnip for the old boys at State" n…and now Islamism ncan you say "HUMA"?
Docofthebay: nReflexive treason is a symptom of liberal disease. It festers unchecked in a broad arc of contagion that runs from the academy through the media into the foreign service. n nUnlike most, I'm reserved in my regret for the loss of our Libyan ambassador's life. He was an Arabist and the character and attitude of Arabists, beginning with Sir Richard Burton the African explorer and British diplomat, is well established and consistent. Jew-hatred is its fundament. n nBurton was a towering figure who admired and enjoyed the company of Arab slave traders, had no sympathy for kidnapped and enslaved Africans and detested Jews. Small wonder that Arabists hold him up for a model of their kind.
Well being married to Elizabeth Taylor was punishment enough. n nWhat?
Has this question been asked and ansewerd?r nr nWHIO SENT AMBASSADOR STEVENS TO BENGHAZI AND WHY?r nr nThis attack was planned ahead of time. Security was weak and he was worried. Why was he ther and WHI sent him?
Right on Russino. It's the elepaant in the living room no one asks about. What was the secret mission that brought a locally savvy Ambassador Stevens to that insecure and exposed outpost which whistleblower Woods, a high-executive level security officer states under oath didn't surprise him; that Woods states he fully expected. "It was just a matter of time," Woods testifies under oath. n nI'll wager Ambassador Steven's mission that night remains a a secret. And the Turkish Ambassador's visit remains forever merely a social call. n nHey, when you have an administration like that which currently holds the White House slavishly supported by monopolistic mega-buck media devoted to suppressing and/or minimizing any and all failures of that administration, we mere citizens are condemned to remain in the dark. Maybe Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi to pick up his surfboard and the Turkish Ambassador dropped by to discuss where the big ones roll in over beer and tarama. n nAnd Ambassador Patric Kennedy will swear to it under oath. On his "honor." n n n n n n n
I meant that the attack on the embassy didn't surprise Woods, of course.
david, Stevens was on a top secret mission to mediate between the Israeli and Lebanese factions of the Sinaloa Federation but the safe house location of the meet was leaked to the Al Sharia Que Cera Cera faction of the Spliff and Shinola Federation. Que Cera Cera, reporting directly to Minister Louis Farrakhan parked in geosynchronous orbit above Benghazi in the Masonic Mothership, desperately needed to maintain their corner on the Libyan Shinola shoe polish market, whose tins were used for the smuggling of plastique. Sinaloa had taken to hijacking QCC's shipments to and from the MB in the smuggling tunnels from Sinai into Gaza but were squabbling over the split. n nPretty much everybody in this fracas had a beard, except Stevens, who was clean shaven.
Bottom line, MSM has reduced us all to Pravda readers reading tea leaves.
well, when reading the tea leaves this old pooch avoids inhaling…imo too much of the product is useless to infer anything except the lib-dem spin of the day–the reality has all leaked out of it in transit. I haven't seen any reports on what Stevens did in Benghazi in the conservative media before his death…but all reports do indicate he was honestly reporting the deterioration of the security situation and not sending happy talk PC cables
besht2003: n nI knew there was more to it than met the eye. I didn't know how much more!
wheels within wheels!
Besht: na) Susan Rice merely served as Obama's professional beard. (If the rumors of Reverend Wright promoting the "down home" lifestyle in his church are true, Michelle serves Obama's personal beard.) Rice's choice was simple: If you want to be Secretary of State next term, you need to go out there and take some bullets for the Stumblebum in Chief. n n2) Romney is right to be cautious. He's dealing with the most dishonest and treacherous administration in my lifetime and his. Ambassador Kennedy beginning his career under Nixon is emblematic; This diplomatic hack's career has come full circle. And Richard Nixon was virtuous compared to Barack Obama. n n3) Obama's courage or lack thereof is plain for everyone to see. Remote killing from afar (and never mind the inevitable collateral damage) is his style. If rumors are correct, these remote killings began with the unsolved murder of a choir leader in Reverend Wright's church and at least one other male lover inexplicably murdered after Obama became Senator. Reverend Wright's church, if persistent rumors out of Chicago are to be believed, is apparently as homicidal as Reverend Farrakhan's Mosque.
WHere do the rumors in #3 come from? n n
If being only the 4th most screwed up anarchic flaming junkpile of a country in the world isn't enough to warrant additional or barely adequate security, than what is?
The dumb asses at headquarters were trying not to give offense by walling themselves off from the 'natives'. n nIt is true, however, that Stevens was very much an Arabist, a supporter of the 'Arab cause', (whatever that is) which he apparently was very obvious about during his posting in E. Jerusalem. n nGay, Arabist . . . he should have been born an Englishman. Not that there's anything wrong with it . . . . (the gay part, anyway). n nAnyhow, where were we? n nOh yeah . .. Big Bird! Big Bird! Romney wants to fire Big Bird!