The conventional wisdom about the Israeli government’s decision to allow new building projects in Jerusalem in the E1 area between the city and the Ma’ale Adumim suburb is that it was a blunder. Critics of Prime Minister Netanyahu claim the move has worsened relations with the United States, alienated European nations and heightened the country’s diplomatic isolation. Others claim that in doing so he has “distracted” the world from concentrating on the nuclear threat from Iran. Even worse, most of his detractors are sure that the only reason he did it was to appease more extreme members of his party so as to secure their support in the upcoming Knesset election. Seen in that light, calling it a blunder would seem to be charitable.
But like most pieces of conventional wisdom, the assumption that Netanyahu has hurt his country is not accurate. Even if shovels went in the ground in the E1 area tomorrow — something that actually won’t happen for a long time, if ever — Israel would be no more or less isolated than it was the day before the announcement. Nor would relations with the Obama administration be any better. All Netanyahu has done is to remind his country’s critics that Israel isn’t willing to lie down and accept the false narrative about the West Bank and Jerusalem that was swallowed whole at the United Nations last week. As Seth wrote earlier, this won’t change Israel’s relationship with Europe. The focus on the European and American positions on settlements has obscured the fact that the primary audience for this move is in Ramallah, not Paris, London or Washington. The E1 decision sends a necessary signal to the Palestinians lest they be deceived by their triumph in the General Assembly. What Netanyahu has done is to show Israel won’t give up an inch of territory unless the Palestinians return to the negotiating table and even then, only if they agree to end the conflict for all time.
The Palestinian Authority tried the UN gambit in order to avoid negotiations with Israel that might place its leader Mahmoud Abbas back in the embarrassing position of having to flee from another Israeli offer of statehood. While he has no intention of ever being put on the spot in that matter again, Abbas may be under the impression that the Israelis can be hammered into more unilateral concessions by means of foreign pressure.
This is a common thread that runs throughout the history of the conflict in which the Palestinian Arab leadership has always thought they could evade their responsibility to deal directly with Israel. It is a belief that was encouraged by President Obama’s foolish decision at the outset of his administration that peace would be brought closer by creating more daylight between Israel and the United States. The fights Obama picked with Israel only served to make it even more difficult for Abbas to come to the table even if he had wanted to.
Had the Europeans behaved in a principled manner and rebuffed the UN upgrade as a clear violation of the Oslo Accords, as they should have, it could be argued that Netanyahu’s decision would have been a mistake. But since the Europeans abandoned the peace process that they had heretofore championed, it was necessary for Israel to remind Abbas that he should realize that the vote in New York wouldn’t mean a thing on the ground in the Middle East.
As for the idea–repeated today by the editorial page of the New York Times–that E1 will make the world less willing to restrain Iran, the notion that the U.S. or Europe can hold Israel hostage on that issue is nonsensical. Iran is as much a threat to the rest of the world as it is to Israel, a point that President Obama has made time and again. Nor is there any evidence that any concessions on settlements made by Israel would make the administration any less reluctant to take action on Iran than it otherwise would be.
Despite all the huffing and puffing about E1, the move has not changed a thing between Israel and the West. But it was exactly what the Palestinians needed to hear. Had Netanyahu failed to remind Abbas he will pay a price for ditching Oslo, that would have been the real blunder.
The price Abbas is paying is so far way too small.
Yes, the nerve of Israel, actually expecting Abu Mazzen to pay for the electricity Israel sold them. Or to think that Jews should be able to live where they please, or to live in Israel, or to live at all. No wonder the 'civilized' world condemns Bibi. n nRemember – murdering Jews, no big deal. Preventing or fighting back against the murder of Jews – endangering peace. Building homes for Jews, or expecting the Arabs to live up to their promises – making peace impossible.
"What Netanyahu has done is to show Israel won’t give up an inch of territory unless the Palestinians return to the negotiating table and even then, only if they agree to end the conflict for all time." nNone of this will hapen, we all know this. This is just another step in the dance!! nIsreal must anex all of the west bamk and gaza-then expel all who will not abide. We all know this-so this excersize is just posturing. nMy country is allegedly in full support with the Jews-so why haven't they said GO!! nBecause they are not… Oh yeah, does the oil thing from the rest of the middle eastern countries play a part? nHa ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!
Former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton declared that Obama could have prevented the Palestinian UN vote if he had wanted to. See video in israelnationalnews dot com
Bolton is as crazy as an outhouse
Excellent article. Agree with Michael. As for the UN, doing the opposite of what they want is the correct action to take. For the most part, the UN is an enemy of Jews and Israel. The US as well, although morons here will not act on that fact. The EU is not far behind. The NY Times should be the Ambassador to the the UN. They would fit in perfectly with their diseased minds.
The UN and 0bama both have no use for Israel. Oh sure, 0bama pretends and makes lofty supporting comments sometimes but you know where he stands: with the UN, and with his brotherhood.
Put a sack over Abbas' head and set him outside the fence at Metullah. Then call up the British consulate and tell them to pick him up.
Better yet, let Hamas now that Abbas is an Israeli spy. n nHe may be sentenced to being dragged by a motorbike . . . or pushed off a building. n nI'd have to check the Hamas Legal Code to see which punishment he would likely get. n n
Don't bother to search. It is Capital Offense #10,528 in the Standard Code of Sharia Law,
punishable by gang-rape, mutilation and burning.
"…like most pieces of conventional wisdom, the assumption that Netanyahu has hurt his country is not accurate…" n n"Conventional wisdom" is an oxymoron. Wisdom is never conventional. The masses are asses. In this case, intentionally malevolent asses. The "plight of the Palestinians" adumbrates of "the passion of the Christ." Both serve as convenient myths for Jew-haters.
Excellent. Very true. n nMohammed Al Dura as Jesus Christ, victimized by the Jews.
The British anti-Semite John le Carre wrote an entire novel titled The Little Drummer Girl centered on this theme. The "Palestinians" serve as a bridge connecting Muslim Jew-haters to their Christian counterparts. Both agree that Jews are the enemies of the God we introduced them to.
As does LeCarre, who starts off his novel by justifying the murder of an Israeli dipolmat's young child, and later describes one of the atheist Mossad agents in the novel as having "a fine rabbinic anger" (whatever that means), and as being know to "lie even in his prayers" (atheists pray?).
English literary anti-Semitism is an old and established tradition rooted in the usual confusion of identity suffered by those alloyed to derivative faiths and cultures. n nRecall that the English foundation myth begins with the arrival on Albion's shore of a Jew named Joseph of Aramathia bringing with him the Holy Grail (Christ's kiddush goblet) for King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table to go gallumphing after. n nThe English imagine London for the New Jerusalem, the British lions are the Judaic lions and English monarchs imagine themselves Judean kings descended from the royal house of David. (A Jewish mohel used to be called in to circumcise English royals.) Nonetheless, the name Judas (Judah; Yehudah) is an epithet. n nA proper study of Jewish-Christian relations begins with the wholesale theft of Greek religion and culture by the Romans. The Romans, who had no racial connections to the Greeks fabricated a mythical connection through Mars, the bloody and gory God of War, who couples with a mortal Greek virgin to produce Romulus and Remus from who the Romans imagined their descent. The Gods abandon Olympus in preference for Rome and all that is Greek becomes Roman. n nThe wholesale theft of Jewish religion and culture follows the same pattern. Unlike the Greeks, however, the Jews refuse to roll over. n n
Very good. Really good.
Best statement of the Narrative of Perpetual Palestinian Victimhood can be found in Gary Steele's statement in the Gatestone Archive. He spoke at a Hudson Institute meeting to my recollection.
Do you think they'll let an old Irish Catholic like me buy a house in the E!? I don't think I can move to Israel, but it would feel good to own one.
You're an annoyance, mettalist. Every time my blood begins to boil over the Vatican's deafening silence on moral issues other than abortion and its lip service paid to "the plight of the Palestinians," some irksome Catholic like you comes along to remind me of all the lay Catholics I know–personally and from reading NRO and watching FOX News and convalescing in a Catholic hospital–who are good and decent people with their heads screwed on right. n nThe customary condolence among Jews on the the death of a loved one or friend is to plant a tree in Israel in the name of the deceased. Skip the expensive real estate and signal your support by contributing a few bucks to the JNF to plant a tree in Israel in your name.
david, n nRegarding the tree, will do if I can be told where it is so I can water it on my next trip over there. n nRegarding the Catholic Church, any organization this big has dubious histories and dubious people. But if you attend daily mass, as I do, in the various parts of the country I visit, you associate with some of the finest people alive. Not so rich, not so proud, but good to the core. And almost all of them wish Israel well.
From Al HaAretz: n n" both Britain and France were poised to take action over the matter − possibly including the unprecedented step of recalling their ambassadors, according to senior European diplomats…" n ntaking their umbrellas with them… n nstill, a big deal, pulling your diplomats out of Israel's capital and government seat certainly sends a message… n noh, never mind
Well, Beshty, tell me – do we still have to recognize the Arabs who call themselves "palestinian" AS 'Palestinian', or can we just call them Arabs who are trying to steal the history, identity, and patrimony of the Jews?
they have a unique cultural identity as Palestinians and a shared cultural memory that distinguishes them from other Arabs and Muslims with whom they cooperate and compete. n nPart of that cultural identity is an anti-Semitic obsession, again, partly shared with other pan-Arab and pan-Islamic movements but also partly unique given their distinct Nazi tutelage before, during, and after WWII. n nIf they are to be re-occupied or a war to be fought against them, Mainsey, a campaign against Palestine will proceed more smoothly than a war against Arabs or Islam generally. n nEven at night not all cats look alike. n nFeel free to call them what you like.
"This comment has been deleted by the administrator." n nI had a response for you regarding racial identity and political correctness, Besht, but it has been deleted by the administrator. Ah, political correctness.
I'll try again posting the last sentence of my post again, Besht and substitute asterisks for words the censors at Commentary find objectionable. It will give you some inkling of the minimindedness of those who have elbowed their way into positions of prominence in American Jewish letters: n nIf you prefer the politically and racially loaded nomenclature of your enemies, Besht, why not refer to yourself as a K**e or a Sh****e? n
Karaite or Shiite? No, that can't be it . . .
First word rhymes with "hike." Second rhymes with "beanie." Odd dealing with censorship at Commentary. You might think we were posting on Pravda. Reminds us that our host Podhoretz is a p—z. (Rhymes with huts.) n
Hmm. A friend from Australia once told me that when someone in Australia says k*k*, he's not insulting you, he's offering you desert.
g* f*** y*******
Such a classy guy you are Besht. And so articulate. n
h*y -are y** t*lk*ng t* m*??!!!!
PC? what a load of crap.. Tough guys.
Ibid.
The term Palestinian Arab People appears for the first time in 1964 in the preamble of the charter of the PLO, drafted in Moscow and corroborated only by the first 422 members of the Palestinian National Council — as reported by Major General Ion Pacepa, the highest ranking defector from the Soviet bloc during the Cold War. He reports that each of those members was hand picked by the KGB.
Besht: n nJust go a comment from one of your cultured Palestinian friends. Mail trail follows. Maybe the two of you ought to hook up. n nAm an Arab! Jonathan. Am jerk if I told you that I ever had power to forge fiction to discredit or credit as you do to Prime Minister Netanyahu decision to resume illegal constructions in E1 area between Jerusalem and Ma’ale Adumim. It’s the same infuriating ugly old cheap designed Ma’ale Adumim the stolen Arab Hills by Ariel Shamir which doled free-of-charge then to Shlomo & his son Chaim "Poju" Zabludowicz the Israeli Arms Dealers who made all his fortune outta Sudan genocides. Netanyahu Political Ponerology is Genesis of Evil which makes great opportunity for Palestinians to clone Netanyahu Ponerization to save the holy land that Netanyahu turning it to an outhouse as we speak for wanted Criminals, Fugitive Felons & Stateless Settlers from around the world. I have no Respect or Sympathy for any of those millions of Palestinian Traitors & Partners-in-Krime in Israel and elsewhere to allow bunch of Israeli low-life scumbags and a gutter dwellers scat on us. Had Netanyahu failed to remind Abbas he will pay a price for ditching Oslo that would have been the real blunder? With your due respect the answer is No. MIT is so corrupt that as thick as Netanyahu whose ass is larger than his brain was an Alumnus. Who are you trying to fu2721ck Jonathan? They ain’t conventional wisdom about Israeli government’s decision to allow new building projects in Jerusalem in E1 area between city and Ma’ale Adumim suburb. Its ain’t blunder either. It’s a child play. Palestinian advisers of Prime Minister Netanyahu fu2721cked Israel relations with United States alienated European nations and heightened country’s diplomatic isolation. That’s a lie. The white House, the Capitol Hill & European nations ain’t but insult to Democracies. The published Rhetoric is a very Powerful Argument that attracts inflammatory commentaries. Urban Accuracy Requires Profanity to honestly deliver opinion Now hold your breath, Shut-up, Sit-down & Listen to Jonathan S. Tobin is Senior Online Editor of Commentary magazine.. Your discretion is advised: The conventional wisdom about the Israeli government’s decision to allow new building projects in Jerusalem in the E1 area between the city and the Ma’ale Adumim suburb is that it was a blunder. nReply n2 replies · active 1 hour ago n+1 ndavidlevavi's avatar – Go to profile n ndavidlevavi 96p · 2 hours ago nClear as mud. nDelete nReply n0 ncloture's avatar – Go to profile n ncloture -76p · 1 hour ago nyou asked for it kibitzer bu2721tch. nmilk your prostate, your seminal fluid is gushn' outta yu' nostrils nHere's the deal. Ignu2721ramus Scumbag nLie down on your back, bend your legs up in the air. Get smooth dildo like TANTUS silk. start with small dildo, but eventually you want bigger one. lube up your Asshu2721le and lube the dildo up and slide it in your ass with curve aimed towards your front. Move it back and front, slowly at first then faster. you'll feel an amazing sensation right in the tip of your reeky varna rectum and su2721x thirsty ANu2721S. Call me if you wish to enterprise your rear. nReply n+1 ndavidlevavi's avatar – Go to profile n ndavidlevavi 96p · 1 hour ago nSheer poetry, clotty. And I thought you were inarticulate! Alas, I'm taken. (A Jewish breeder b*tch who whelped me three three brats with advanced degrees.) Besides, clotty, you're too old for me. And your kind don't often bathe which we obsessively hygienic Jews find off-putting. n nBut hey, clotty, don't despair. No need for all that grease to go to waste. Why don't you reach out for a submissive male among the farm animals you live with? A nice billy-goat who smells just like you. Nah-ah-ah. nDelete nReply n1 reply · active 42
What I don't understand is why a rhetorical use of cake and shiny, if you will, gets removed, but a piece of gay porn like cloture's stays up.
Automation is my guess. There's a long list of words that digitally triggers automatic deletion. n nCloture is a bumbaclot.
Posted! I guess the computer list of proscribed terms doesn't include Jamaican for menstrual rag.
The Europeans? That's a joke, and except for their pomposity and historical animosity toward Israel and diplomatic and financial support of the Palestinians and support of anti-Israel NGOs as well as their extended vacillation towards the Iranian nuclear program, who cares what they think or do. They pushed and were a party to the Oslo Accords but what does a complete abandonment of those agreements by the Palestinians matter to the Europeans? Netnayahu's actions were certainly aimed at Ramallah and a reminder that unilateral actions have consequences. They were also meant as a blunt reminder to the Europeans that Israel is not the Czechoslovakian Sudentenland.
General rule – the Arabs need not live up to any of the promises they made under Oslo. The Jewish state must not only live up to every promise they made at Oslo, but even to promises they did not make but that Europe, the Arabs or the US wishes that the Jewish state had made.
” They pushed and were a party to the Oslo Accords ”
because they it as a door for Arafat to gain entry to Israel, as well he did through Gaza and then the relentless terrorism war.
Which reminds me that not one of those European states protested the stream of rockets and mortars into Israell all these years but get their knickers in a twist cause Israel builds houses for its citizens.
Britain’s Foreign Secretary Hague is against the Leveson Report
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9715454/Leveson-report-Press-laws-would-justify-human-rights-abuses-abroad-Hague-warned.html
because “it would justify human rights abuses abroad”
while all the while he has had nothing to say, nor less to do, about the abuse Israeli children’s human rights by forcing them to suffer from PTSD from all those sudden explosions, breaking glass, flying shrapnel at any time of the day in their homes, on the street or in school.
Haven't the Europeans already shown that nothing Israel will do will satisfy them? If Israel were chas v'sholom to disappear, a century later the Europeans would still be pointing to Israel's supposed misdeeds as an excuse for attacks on Jews.
"Supposed" misdeeds? Might as well suggest the Jews did not crucify Christ. Don't you know the Jews cried out " be it on our head" when Christ was condemned? Don't you hear Tsipi Livni and "Rabbi" Michael Lerner and Jeremy Ben Ami saying "be it on our head" today?
Well, several years after Lenny Bruce died, I heard him saying on an LP that he found a note in his family's bsasement that said "We did it, signed, Morty", and that if he comes back, we're gonna kill him again. n nWhat I hear Michael Lerner and Jeremy Ben Ami saying is, "Don't hurt me, I'm a good Jew, but go ahead and kill as many Jews in Israel as you care to, whether we crucified anybody or not." n nWho was it who said that many a Christian who is sure that oso ha-ish never lived is equally sure that the Jews killed him?
Netanyahu knows this is the Battle for Jerusalem, as well as an opening to push the 2002 Saudi plan down Israel's throat. n n
Netanyahu knows politics more than other things.
And Obama just knows what you need, but I know what you want.
I agree. it wasn't a blunder as much as it was gratuitous truculence.
Yeah, the nerve of the guy thinking Israel actually has rights. Or that promises made to a Jew, or to a Jewish state, mean anything. Or that Israel is a sovereign state, or that the League of Nations mandate had any legal force. Sheer truculence is the only answer. n nAnd now that 'Palestine' is supposedly a state, does Israel get the right to respond to acts of war?
aha, a series of non-responsive assertions having nothing to do with anyting? n nand why in heck are you simply making stuff up about Israel suddenly , due to the UN vote, deve;oping the right to defend itself against acts of war???? n nare you simply being silly, or do you mean to say that the Israelis prior to now have been cowering in fear and haven't tried to defend themselves????
Dub, if you brushed up on your history, you would see why my assertions were in fact responsive. To take only your penultimate question, when Israel was taken before the International Cangaroo Court at the Hague because of the security fence, the kangaroos rejected the concept that the fence was a necessary defensive measure. Why? Because of their novel theory that a state's right to defend against aggression by another state did not include the right to defend against non-state actors. Ergo, now that the GA thinks that the Palestinian Authority is ruling over a state, does Israel's right to defend itself against another state now apply? n nOf course, to say that the PA 'rules' over a state is not one but two misconceptions. First, Palestine is not a state. Second, the PA is not ''ruling' over anything except in the sense that the Black P. Stone Nation 'ruled' over certain territory in Chicago ( I say that with full recognition of their tufr battle with El Rukhn aka the Disciples). Being the biggest and baddest gang of bandits exploiting a lawless territory is not the same as ruling it. [More]
IIRC, the fence was also taken up in the Israeli's courts…..and was found there to be not quite kosher. n n nlike your Chicago references, BTW
What is not quite kosher is your description of the Israeli Supreme Court's ruling. The court ordered minor relocations of the fence in a very few places, in order to minimize inconvenience to some Arab settlements. Unlike the ICC, the Israeli court did not find the mere existence of the fence to be a human rights viotation. n nWhy do you choose to be an aplogist for the lawless and anti-Jewish International Criminal Court?
[cont'd] Dub, your last question makes me wonder if you are deliberately misreading my post. Nowhere did I say that Israel has not acted to defend itself. But you cannot deny that the pooh-bahs at the UN and the NGOs have repeatedly denied Israel's right to do so, and that one reason they cite is the non-state status of Israel's enemies.
Israel is not getting gigged on the right to defend itself, but upon actions that are said not to be legitimate expressions of the right to self-defense. n nthe dirtbags in Gaza firing rickety rockets at Israeli civilians claim to be exercising their right to self-defense… n nwhich is disgusting and absurd. n nand some of the things that Israel does are also quite questionable. n n nthe criticism sometimes is vile, but not all of it is unwarranted. n n nthere ain't no pure side in this goatrope.
Actions that are falsely said not to be legitimate expressions of the right to self-defense, and that are routinely allowed to non-Jewish nations, including those making the loudest condemnations. Thank you for proving my point. n n"and some of the things that Israel does are also quite questionable. " And Israel has unquestionably been accused of things it has NOT done, such as using WP as an anti-personnel weapon, or massacring families of civilians at gunpoint. Both of which the Arab terrorists have done, btw. n n"there ain't no pure side in this goatrope. " Pure, perhaps, but only to the extent that no war has ever been fought that is pure. But Israel has come closer than any other nation, including the US, and certainly closer than any of the nations that routinely distort Israel's actions. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either unaware of the facts or has lost the ability to tell right from wrong.
that Israel has been accused of tons of stuff that it never did or would do does not change the facts that show that it has done things that it never should have done, aha. n nI would never say or imply that Israel has reached the moral abyss that is Hamas in its best day, but the list of Israel's crimes isn't minimal.
"I would never say or imply that Israel has reached the moral abyss that is Hamas in its best day" Gee, Dub, that's awfully Christian of you. n n"the list of Israel's crimes isn't minimal. " False. It IS minimal, especially when compared to the list of much worse crimes committed by its "civilized" accusers, including the UK, Russia, France, and the other purists, as well as the list of those committed by the US. There is not one country in the world that has fought a war in a more moral fashion than Israel, and to say otherwise is to deny or distort reality.
I'm as good a Christian as you are, you confused person….and this crud about how the crimes of Israel don't much count because everyone else is worse doesn't much fit with the teachings of our religion, does it ? n ndon't pay much attention to your lessons , did ya, dummy?
Still, it would be a good idea if the Goverment of Israel leaves the idea of 1949 ceasefire lines behind, and would say that if there is a partition, it would be across the whole land and along COMMUNAL lines. This way, area C would become undisputably Jewish, whereas Taibe, Nazareth, Umm Fat etc would all go East.
whaaaa? n nIsrael is contemplating going back to 49? n nthey're going to annul the annexation? n ninteresting.
You got it backwards.
Labour is always contemplating going back to 49. With annexation – the only thing annexed in Yehuda and Shomron at the moment is the Old City and East Jerusalem. n nPartition along communal lines will additionally annexe whole Area C as well as parts of Area B, but it will remove (ie de-annexe) Palestinian population centers – Umm Famm, Taibe, Nazareth etc – out of Israel.
Don't bother Dub with actual history. Just give him Susan Rice's talking points.
sorry, ahab, didn't realize that it was "history" being talked about. thought ti was supposed to be something currently under discussion.
really??? when last was going back to 49 a hot topic?
"when last was going back to 49 a hot topic? " Wow. I guess Obama's insistence earlier this year on the 1967 'borders' is also ancient history for you. Or are you unaware that the so-called 1967 'borders' are actually the 1949 armistice lines? n n"didn't realize that it was "history" being talked about. thought ti was supposed to be something currently under discussion. " n n Sorry, Dub, but if you don't pay attention to history, it's much more difficult to make an intelligent contribution to a discussion on current events.
The war of the West (EU & US) against the Israeli Jews goes unabated. The EU as much as the US do deliberately ignore ethical/moral obligations for personal/selfish interests. Why should IL act differently. As long as IL has power she will be respected. She cannot allow herself to be bullied by others. We in the US are confronted with the issue of failing to resolve bullying by children but practice bullying as much as possible on a national and international level! How hypocritical! nIt should come as no surprise that the Arabs Muslims will do everything in their power to force the West to blackmail IL. The West lack dearly powerful, prestigious, courageous and wise leaders. Winston S Churchill, Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat were the last of the greatest.
Some suggestions for Israeli ambassadors abroad. They could recommend to host countries: n nLondon: Return ‘The City’ to the Druids; nParis: Return the Isle de France to the heirs of Asterix, the Gauls and the Celts; nBerlin: Return to the Slavic Prussians, who were expelled by the Teutonic Knights; nBeijing: Return the Forbidden City to the Mongols; nMoscow: Return all of the city to the Mongols or the Vikings; nBudapest: Return to the Huns; nVienna: Give it all to the Ottomans; nTokyo: Return to the Ainu; nItaly: Return Rome to the Etruscans, Sicily to the Sicilians, Sardinia to the Sardines; nNew York: Return to the Delawares, Eries, Iroquois, Mahicans, Mohegans, Montauks. Cede Brooklyn to the Hassids. nUSA: Texas, Arizona, New Mexico to the Mexicans; Alaska to the Aleuts; The Prairies to the nomadic tribes; Return the Alaska panhandle, New England and Michigan to the British Crown.
The analogy does not quite fit, for the Jews are the are ancestral peoples, not the 'palestinians', who are of comparatively very recent vintage. n nIt is as if the Native Americans came back as a State, over an unorganized American territory, and the US started blowing up and terrorizing the Native Americans.
Correct. My mistake.I should have added:Return Israel and Judea to the Jews, resident for 4000 years, far exceeding all the other claims, in the Jewish Holy Land.Jeffrey Asher— — —
Great list. What I wouldn't pay to have this list shown on mainstreat media. n nGeorge
All you need to do is by a newspaper publisher or a TV station, but I have no idea how much they sell for.
Am an Arab! Jonathan. Am jerk if I told you that I ever had power to forge fiction to discredit or credit as you do to Prime Minister Netanyahu decision to resume illegal constructions in E1 area between Jerusalem and Ma’ale Adumim. It’s the same infuriating ugly old cheap designed Ma’ale Adumim the stolen Arab Hills by Ariel Shamir which doled free-of-charge then to Shlomo & his son Chaim "Poju" Zabludowicz the Israeli Arms Dealers who made all his fortune outta Sudan genocides. Netanyahu Political Ponerology is Genesis of Evil which makes great opportunity for Palestinians to clone Netanyahu Ponerization to save the holy land that Netanyahu turning it to an outhouse as we speak for wanted Criminals, Fugitive Felons & Stateless Settlers from around the world. I have no Respect or Sympathy for any of those millions of Palestinian Traitors & Partners-in-Krime in Israel and elsewhere to allow bunch of Israeli low-life scumbags and a gutter dwellers scat on us. Had Netanyahu failed to remind Abbas he will pay a price for ditching Oslo that would have been the real blunder? With your due respect the answer is No. MIT is so corrupt that as thick as Netanyahu whose ass is larger than his brain was an Alumnus. Who are you trying to fu2721ck Jonathan? They ain’t conventional wisdom about Israeli government’s decision to allow new building projects in Jerusalem in E1 area between city and Ma’ale Adumim suburb. Its ain’t blunder either. It’s a child play. Palestinian advisers of Prime Minister Netanyahu fu2721cked Israel relations with United States alienated European nations and heightened country’s diplomatic isolation. That’s a lie. The white House, the Capitol Hill & European nations ain’t but insult to Democracies. The published Rhetoric is a very Powerful Argument that attracts inflammatory commentaries. Urban Accuracy Requires Profanity to honestly deliver opinion Now hold your breath, Shut-up, Sit-down & Listen to Jonathan S. Tobin is Senior Online Editor of Commentary magazine.. Your discretion is advised: The conventional wisdom about the Israeli government’s decision to allow new building projects in Jerusalem in the E1 area between the city and the Ma’ale Adumim suburb is that it was a blunder.
Clear as mud.
you asked for it kibitzer bu2721tch. nmilk your prostate, your seminal fluid is gushn' outta yu' nostrils nHere's the deal. Ignu2721ramus Scumbag nLie down on your back, bend your legs up in the air. Get smooth dildo like TANTUS silk. start with small dildo, but eventually you want bigger one. lube up your Asshu2721le and lube the dildo up and slide it in your ass with curve aimed towards your front. Move it back and front, slowly at first then faster. you'll feel an amazing sensation right in the tip of your reeky varna rectum and su2721x thirsty ANu2721S. Call me if you wish to enterprise your rear. n
David – "Clear as mud. " But not as clean.
Well, your English is better than my Arabic, Cloture, but that's not saying much, ibn sharmood.
Jonathan, I may have missed it, but Contentions has yet to comment on the defense budget passing without the amendment to cut off funds to the PLO/PA if they went to the ICC. Bob Mendenez had said that the amendment would be added in reaction to the upgrade in the UN that Abbas obtained – but low and behold it was not added. Has Congress (the GOP) forsaken Israel too?
Sheer poetry, clotty. And I thought you were inarticulate! Alas, I'm taken. (A Jewish breeder b*tch who whelped me three three brats with advanced degrees.) Besides, clotty, you're too old for me. And your kind don't often bathe which we obsessively hygienic Jews find off-putting. n nBut hey, clotty, don't despair. No need for all that grease to go to waste. Why don't you reach out for a submissive male among the farm animals you live with? A nice billy-goat who smells just like you. Nah-ah-ah.
english please
So get an English goat. Smells no different than an Arab goat.
Yeah, but English goats have their standards. For that matter, I'm not sure that even an Arab goat would want to be anywhere near cloture. But if we were matching either one against Cloture in an English composition contest, or logic, or classiness, my money is on the goat.
Homosexual bestiality. Is there a chapter on the subject in Kraft-Ebbing? Some desperate researcher could get a paper published on clotty the bumbaclot.
cry Auschwitz Dachau Birkenau
You've developed a stutter, bunbaclot. Stop sucking and breathe deep.
Bumbacloture?
Exactly. With an anal plug.
Frankly I don't understand why prior israeli governments did not announce groudbreaking for new settlements every time there was a terrorist action against Israel. n nThat would really bring home to everyone involved that terrorism doesn't pay! n nWhat Bibi did was RIGHT ON!
An issue which I have not seen discussed much was the unacceptable encouragement of national US Jewish agencies to their memberships to elicit a positive outpouring of US Jews to thank the Obama Administration for our UNGA NO vote and "standing with Israel." (Really: A day late and a dollar short) n nLet's see, there was the president, the SoS and the UN Ambassador, and probably mouth piece Victoria coming forth with their first pro-Israel statements in recent memory. Their comments were so shocking that I had to listen to them a couple of times to make sure I actually understood what they had said. n nMy view, European allies of the US did not vote with us, because being that we are no longer an exceptional country, the leader of freedom in the free world and the strongest voice of real individual freedoms, our little US NO vote was not very important, especially to the US administration. n nIf I had bothered to write, which I would never have wasted my time, I would have asked BHO if he had misplaced the phone numbers of the leaders of the free world. Maybe it's hard to keep track of all those contacts these days. Technology is growing and the free world is shrinking, but who knows? Anyway, the French president is too busy to speak with our president because he is currently advancing legislation to eliminate homework for all French children-homework is no longer "socioeconomically fair" for poor French families. This of course leaves more time to study the Qu'ran in the >750 Islamic No-Go zones in France. n nBy not putting any observable public international pressure on our "allies," to "vote NO with us," which countries are all now becoming Islamic dominant, Obama gave them clear-cut permission to vote however they wanted to vote. Our US vote was a snowflake in the hail storm. n nIt is time for three things to occur if we want to avoid a 100 year resurgence of an international caliphate: n_US out of UN n_UN out of US n_Turkey out of NATO nMaybe then we can begin to get a handle on the future for the US and for Israel! n nWe should locate 3,000 American Jewish families who will come together, "organize" and guarantee to Bibi that we are ready to move to E1 as soon as it is built, and create a significant down payment. Once we get this organized, we should convene our group-mandatory attendance to participate, invite Bibi et al. to this convention and make a very public presentation of a check and of the importance to us of building E1. If every family advances say $1,000 toward a down payment, we would initially raise and present $3,000,000. n nWe need to add backbone to backbone. Our message to Abu Mazen should be simple, "if you don't like the Jewish neighbors that you have now, those living on our biblical land (which we have continued to offer to share with you), we're just letting you know that more of us are on our way to make your day. n
Intellectual discourse in the Roman world was always carried on in Greek Just as intellectual discourse in the medieval world was carried on in Latin. (The raising of Latin to a holy language was a deliberateu00a0 enterprise of the Church.) Recall that the Gospels–anonymous documents to which the Church attached the fictitious names Matthew,u00a0 Mark, John and Luke– though written in Greek (or Koine) were authored by Jews. The whole of the Christian Canon is Jewish literature.As for Christians borrowing not merely the language but the ideas of the Greeks, that was inevitable. Gods lusting after mortal virgins is a staple of Greek mythology. The mortal virgin in the Christian myth is distinguished by spiritual rather than physical beauty but that doesn't radically differentiateu00a0 Christian myth from the usual Greek story line.Bear in mind that the study of theology is exclusively Christian. Jews and Muslims take little interest in the subject. It is Christian insistence on triune monotheism–plainly an oxymoron–that forces Christians to obsess on the nature of God. Locking down the Trinity at the core of Christian faith took near four centuries of often bloody debate. It required a Roman emperor to gather fractious Bishops in one place–a task kin to herding hissing cats– and put a knife to their throats to force them to bring the fissure at the heart of Christian faith to closure. And the deal wasn't fully accomplished even there at the Council of Nycae. It took some twenty years longer and another Bishop's gathering in Cappadocia before the Holy Ghost was firmly seated in equal status to The Father and The Son.Constantine's interests are plain. Where Julius Caesar was brilliant in attack, Constantine's genius lay in orderly retreat. Julius Caesar expanded the Empire and opened Roman citizenship to foreigners; Constantine'su00a0 unhappy task was to shrink the Empire while preserving its core. Constantine's was by far the more challenging enterprise and it demanded, first and foremost, that internal religious squabbling be ended and those retreating be united under one unchallenged faith. Christian fantasy to the contrary, Constantine had nothing but contempt for the Christian Bishops he was forcibly manipulating and remained a Helios worshiper to the end of his days.It needs mention also that Greek myths were not without their precursors. Aphrodite is the Greek rendering of Astarte, AKA Astarius, Ishtar,u00a0 Esther, Easter. Indeed the myth of the Birth of the Christ bears striking resemblance to the mythical birth of the pre-Abrahamic Corn God, Dagon, with the Virgin Mary (Miriam) in the role of the Virgin Ishtar and the “Jewish” God who couples with the Virgin Mary in the role of Baal.As goes the ancient myth, the God, Baal (Baal Zevuv; Beelzebub),u00a0 impregnates his virgin consort Ishtar with a solar ray. The virgin star (the English word is derived from Ishtar) blazes across the heavens, her celestial path followed by three Magian priests, to fall on a beach in ancient Tyre. The pregnant virgin goddess, unable to get her birthling past her holy hymen, turns a seabird into a rabbit, the rabbit lays an egg and out of the egg pops Dagon, Lord of Grain. In order to propitiate the Virgin Ishtar for good harvest,u00a0 mothers in ancient Carthage would bring their infants to the priests each year for sacrifice. The priests would slit the infant's throatsu00a0 and rituallyu00a0paint Ishtar eggs with their blood. Hence the Christian Easter bunnyu00a0 and painting Easter eggs. In Hebrew Ishtar is Ashtoreth, whose worship is specifically forbidden in Genesis and condemned elsewhere. Dagon of the Grain appears along with Tirash of the Vine in the ceremonial consummation of peace between Abraham and the Jebusite King of (Jeru)Salem over bread and wine. This ceremony over bread and wine is the Jewish Kiddush which Saul of Tarsus refashions into the Christian Communion. It is also probable that the Virgin Mary worshiped by Christians and the meteorite contained in the Kaaba in Mecca and yet worshipped by Muslims are one and the same deity. There is nothing new under the sun.
Thanks again. n n