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Sally Quinn: Gee, There’s This Thing Called Religion!

John Podhoretz - 11.14.2007 - 8:34 PM

Newsweek and the Washington Post are celebrating the first anniversary of their joint website, “On Faith,” which is billed as “A Conversation on Religion with Jon Meacham and Sally Quinn.” And therein hangs a tale.

Meacham is the managing editor of Newsweek and perhaps the only serious student of religion among the top editors in the mainstream media. Quinn is another story. She became famous first for a disastrous stint as the co-host of a morning news show in the 1970s and then as the star snark writer of profiles during the heyday of the Washington Post’s Style section in the late 1970s and early 1980s. After that she wrote several trashy bestsellers about D.C. life.

I tell you all this because Sally Quinn has written a post on the website on the occasion of its first anniversary that is one of the most dumbfounding documents I have ever read. It is like Augustine’s Confessions, if Augustine’s Confessions had been written by a combination of Helen Gurley Brown and Britney Spears.

You really have to read the whole thing to get the full flavor, but I will here provide you with some choice excerpts:

When we started this I knew practically nothing about religion or the internet. I was not a believer (Jon Meacham is an Episcopalian, a practicing Christian) so I felt secure that I had his experience and knowledge to give us the grounding we needed. Even so it was such an unlikely subject for me to get involved with that even my husband was in shock. My friends still report people sidling up to them at cocktail parties and saying, “What’s with Sally and this religion thing?”

When you really think about it though, it’s not all that surprising. I’m a journalist. I always want to know everything about everything. Curiosity is a driving force with me. In fact I remember when I was eleven, meeting this really cute guy whose mother brought him over to our house one day. I began asking him questions about himself and he finally turned to me and said, “Gee, you’re nosy. ”I was devastated. I had been genuinely interested and wanted to know more about him….

Ultimately each of us is searching for some kind of meaning. Whether we are Christians or Jews or Hindus or Muslims or Buddhists or Wiccans or Atheists or whatever, we are all looking for a way to understand why we are here and to find our own happiness and contentment.

When I announced to Jon several years ago that I was an atheist he challenged me. He said I should not define myself negatively, for one thing, and that if I was really serious about not believing in God that I should at least have some knowledge about what it was I didn’t believe in. At that point I was completely illiterate on the subject, having been disdainful and contemptuous of religion all of my life. But I took what he said to heart and began to read some of the books he suggested. Once again my curiosity got the best of me.

All I can say is that I was shocked and embarrassed at how little I knew, and ultimately ashamed of myself for proclaiming myself an atheist when I really didn’t know what I was talking about.

I also began to realize that so many people in this world who call themselves religious were just like me. They not only knew nothing or little about their own faith but were just as close minded and hostile to other religions as I was to all religion.

The more I read the more I wanted to read and the more obsessed I became with the subject.

Finally in March I took a trip around the world to study the Great Faiths. It was a private tour and we started in Rome. From there we went to Jerusalem in Israel and Bethlehem in Palestine, Kyoto, Japan; Chengdu, China; Lhasa, Tibet; Varanasi, New Delhi and Amritsar in India; Addis Ababa, Ethiopia; Cairo, Egypt; Armenia; and Istanbul, Turkey. When I told my friend, “On Faith” panelist and religion scholar Elaine Pagels, about the trip she asked how long I had spent. “Three weeks ‘”I replied. “But,” she said in astonishment, “you can’t do that trip in less than three years!.” She was right, actually….

What for me, was the most enlightening thing about my trip was how similar the basic tenets of all religions are. There are some scholars who might argue that point but I felt that ultimately, if you take away all of the evil that has been done in the name of religion (and that’s what I had concentrated on most of my life) you will find that exhortation by Confucius, “What you do not wish for youself, do not do to others,” is really the basis of most world religions. It is the practices and interpretations of that where the faiths diverge.

The trip bolstered my belief in what Jon and I were doing. I felt even more strongly that it was vitally important for people of all faiths and no faiths to understand each other and that we must do everything we could do to foster that understanding….

This country was founded on the concept of separation of church and state. There is a huge difference between understanding and respecting the faiths of others and trying to impose your faith on others. The more we understand about other faiths, I believe, the less likely we will be to try to coerce others into believing as we do.

That is our goal.

Remember: This is the woman who is the co-editor of a religion website co-managed by one of the nation’s two most important newspapers and one of the nation’s two most important magazines. Neither organization, it’s safe to say, would allow a person as gleefully ignorant and simultaneously archly portentous as Quinn to co-host a site about, oh, sports with the level of knowledge and interest she possessed before taking on “On Faith.” And who, after a year’s thin study, feels herself competent to speak with surpassingly confident banality about the differences and commonalities of the world’s major religions.

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    craig mclaughlin Says:
    November 14th, 2007 at 9:46 PM

    “I always want to know everything about everything.” Funny then that she actually doesn’t know anything about anything. Or if she does you sure can’t tell it by what she says or what she writes.

    Joseph Epstein wrote that in Hell (that’s the bad place, Sally!) there’d be only bound copies of New York Times Editorials to read. My conception of Hell would be stuck in a dentist’s waiting room with Sally Quinn and Tom Friedman.

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    John Says:
    November 14th, 2007 at 11:47 PM

    I liked what Sally Quinn had to say, even if she was a bit naive. I actually think this is from her heart, and I don’t condemn it, I applaud it.

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    coggieguy Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 12:11 AM

    John - I don’t think Craig was condemning what Sally wrote - I think he was mocking it. I’m no theologian, but this is pretty thin gruel.

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    Christopher Fotos Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 12:14 AM

    What for me, was the most enlightening thing about my trip was how similar the basic tenets of all religions are.

    Oh Lord. If you’ll pardon the expression.

    Most brands of Christianity give you the options of eternal damnation or bodily resurrection and everlasting life through Jesus Christ. Alone.

    Judaism regards Jesus as a potentially interesting if blasphemous footnote.

    Islam pronounces a pox on both their houses, demanding submission to Allah. Jesus was not crucified, and therefore did not rise from the dead, so if you worship him as God you are doomed.

    Eastern religions teach endless cycles of creation and destruction and/or a final escape from suffering through personal oblivion.

    All pretty much the same thing.

    I know every Commentary reader gets this, but holy cow. If you catch my drift.

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    baconboy Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 12:18 AM

    Since you bring up Augustine, I think an observation by Augustine might be helpful here. Augustine thought that curiosity is a vice (its opposing virtue is studiousness). Curiosity, in Augustine’s thought, is a vice for all of the reasons that Quinn exhibits here: it tends to lead to superficiality, it reflects a certain element of intellectual selfishness and pride (the pride of being someone who knows things), and it is flighty. Note how intellectually selfish she seems, how her curiosity drives to know everything (something most theistic religions would reserve for God), and how it is all about her. The intellectual vice here is profound.

    And someone who thinks that all religions are basically the same isn’t really taking any one of them or any of their practitioners seriously.

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    Larry Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 12:27 AM

    With all due respect for those believers who will soon be leaving the fold for greener theological pastures, is it possible that an Episcopalian can also be a Christian?

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    John Frerking Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 1:48 AM

    What an embarrassment to journalism to have this as an example of what is offered by this “profession” on such serious matters (uh…eternal salvation anyone?). There are professions that discipline those who practice outside of their area of expertise…perhaps journalism should follow suit.

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    Roy Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 1:51 AM

    I agree with John, she admitted her naivete, but she has a positive and inquiring attitude, and I applaud her. I am more interested in her website now than I would have ever been before.

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    Dan Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 2:17 AM

    Am I the only person who upon reading of her “trip around the world to study the great faiths,” immediately had unbidden the thought: “It’s Pee Wee’s Great Adventure, Sally Quinn style.”

    And “surpassingly confident banality” was an absolute bullseye.

    Europe is going down the dark path of Eurabia, while here in the States we have one of our major newspapers delivering over a website”On Faith” to a Style section staffer!

    I suppose she’ll be able to deftly mix references to Transubstantian with “Brangelina.”

    Well, what with her in depth study of the matter, she should have no problem identifying my point when I suggest that it’s all “a sign of the times.”

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    bour3 Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 3:45 AM

    I couldn’t read it. Got half way through and both eyes glazed simultaneously. Now I take that as a sign to just stop reading, there’s only so much vapidity these poor eyes can take.

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