Comments on: A Comment on Hillary Clinton For All My Co-Religionists

By: Remose

Remose — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:16:33 +0000

I will say this if Hillary is elected president and there is no dought that she will be .If she takes obama as her vice president she will lost the latino votes.

By: Smart like Feith

Smart like Feith — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:43:19 +0000

keep waiting till Moshiach…. if you think its ok to say kaddish for a living person then maybe you are Mormon, not a Jew

PS. benosaf, lech tizdayen

By: Ahad Ha'amoratzim

Ahad Ha'amoratzim — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:15 +0000

Avi, not to mention that though the kaddish is in Aramaic, the halakha as to who you say kaddish for are in Hebrew — presumably you have a source in the Shulchan Aruch, Rambam, or someones Shailos and T’shuvos. (Sorry, hamutzi, but if I really wanted to get Litvish I could have said Sailos and Tsuvosh.) Unless of course you have a klor source in the Gmara.

And by the way, am haaretz is singular. Do you mean Amai Haaretz (to satisfy hamutzi) or amoratzim (to satisfy the haimisher crowd)?

And you do realize that typing the opening of kaddish in a blog entry is not the same as reciting, with or without a minyan, right?

Finally, Hashem is no joke. You on the other hand –

By: Ari Lamm

Ari Lamm — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:00:30 +0000

Avi,

You’re a fool. I asked you for a halakhic source discussing the laws of “kaddish.” You made a statement conerning the laws of kaddish and I really don’t think you’ve ever opened sefer (let alone know anything about hilkhos tefillah) - so my test to you is as follows:

Provide a HALAKHIC source for your statement above concerning the circumstances under which one says kaddish - and to make sure you don’t just google it and get lucky, I want you to provide the Hebrew text of your source to prove you actually looked it up…I’ll even help you out - you can check Hilkhos Tefillah in the Rambam, the Tur, the Shulchan Arukh, etc. (that is, if you can even read Hebrew…)

I’m waiting….

By: Richard F.

Richard F. — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:43:40 +0000

Avi: Some advice: Only men have hearts. Labels (neo-con, bolshevik, etc.) do not have hearts. And the hearts of men are notoriously difficult to know, beginning with one’s own heart and extending to the hearts of others. Only Hashem truly knows hearts–one’s own, and those of others. Hence, human beings should hesitate before attempting to “divine” what is in the hearts of others.

Whether one might have been a “label” once–just as Resh Lakeish was once a thief–is irrelevant. Tsheuva matters, and what one is now matters. Just as I would not wish to know (nor do I care) what anyone on this site “once was” so I would not judge myself (or wish to be judged) by what I “once was.”

No one could stand that test. No would I wish to speculate on whose faith, or lack of faith or the infinite points in between, is genuine. Here, labels mislead. Just as there are “religious” people who number among the worst of us, there are in fact atheists who may serve Hashem’s greatest purposes (see Rav Kook here.)

Parting advice: careful with labels, careful with hearts.

By: Avi

Avi — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:00:22 +0000

Hashem is only a joke to neo-cons, who are all still bolsheviks at heart.

By: Los Angeleno

Los Angeleno — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:51:10 +0000

Dear AVI. I get it now. You are just pretending to be an idiot. No one could possibly have as little a sense of humor as your posts indicate. No one could fail to catch the obvious joke, and then stupidly say it is because neo-cons are ignorant. And then to brag about your learning while still not getting the joke, seemingly proving beyond doubt you are a total fool!!! Wow! Very clever, Avi.

By: Avi

Avi — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:02:53 +0000

Ari: hint, the Kaddish is not even in Hebrew, it is in Aramaic. You neo-cons are all am ha’aretz pretending to be learned. Shame on you.

By: Richard F.

Richard F. — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:24:47 +0000

Of course, hamutzi, and my apologies to the formalists! Like many American Jews, I learned mama loshen on my zede’s lap and at my father’s table; loshen hakodesh came in shul and from my bar mitzvah teacher (supplemented by later study); it was never a system, merely a bunch of (in my case, Litvaks) talking, davening, complaining (but rarely spelling) as they always did!

Machloket it is and henceforth, will always be.

Zeigezunt,

Richard F.

By: Stuart Nachman

Stuart Nachman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:24:28 +0000

Where is Leo Rosten when you need him?

By: hamutzi

hamutzi — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:17:47 +0000

If you guys are gonna get all technical on whether its a joke or a blasphemy, belonging as I do to the modern hebrew pronunciation branch of the family …..ya-ani….. in the tradition of the “Hebraicists” among us, as opposed to the “Yiddishists” [ and which is in no way meant as a disparagement of the Litvak-Polish-Yiddish-Ashkenazi pronunciaton] would it be at all right, Richard F, if I were to describe the verbal altercation, or expression of a divergence of views herein contained, and to which you make reference, as a genuine “machloket” on Commentary?

By: Herbert Rubin, M.D.

Herbert Rubin, M.D. — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:52:35 +0000

I prefer singing “nah, nah,nah,nah, Hey, Hey, GOOD BY!!! Captures the right tone.

By: Ben Orlanski

Ben Orlanski — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:47:24 +0000

Avi: Podhoretz was far too kind to you for your asinine remark.

By: Richard F.

Richard F. — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:30:41 +0000

Ah! A genuine machlochas on Commentary!

By: Ari Lamm

Ari Lamm — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:53:01 +0000

Not that I care one way or another (Mr. Podhoretz’s comment was obviously a joke) - but I suspect that Avi doesn’t really have any idea what he’s talking about (and probably hasn’t ever set foot in a beis medrash for that matter…). So, Avi…would you mind providing a source for your comments? And just to make sure you don’t simply google it and get lucky - how about providing the Hebrew text from your source (to make sure you actually looked it up).

Hint: you’re wrong…

By: John Podhoretz

John Podhoretz — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:49:40 +0000

To clarify: No one is saying Kaddish. It’s what is called a joke.

By: Richard F.

Richard F. — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:47:28 +0000

Avi: I agree with you that reciting kaddish for the living, let alone for a gentile, is a chi’ll Hashem. But, before you “go off” publicly about Jewish neo-cons, let me remind you of Ahavas Y’isroe’al.

Your point is valid, but send him a letter!

By: Avi

Avi — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:26:26 +0000

ignoramus Podhoretz. saying kaddish for a living person, and for a gentile, is a sacrilege. typical of neo-cons tho, they know nothing that matters

By: David S. Mazel

David S. Mazel — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:14:51 +0000

Amen!