Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel appeared in an interview with the staunchly pro-Obama Pacifica radio. They expected Gravel to bash Sarah Palin, and tell them what the Republicans “haven’t told us about Sarah Palin.” Sounds pretty om…

My right?

Probably “You are” is meant here. (I am noting this
for a purpose – to be explained below, at ###).

“We should judge Palin by her inexperience but by what she says.”

For this sentence to begin to make sense, either
“not” must be inserted after “should”, or “but” must be
replaced by “and” – or some other surgical alteration
has to be performed.

“So far everytime she opens her mouth their is someone who disputes her words.”

“There is”, not “their is”.

###You see: every time you write a word there’s
someone who disputes it (I do).
And you’re not even running for office!

Every time Obama, Biden, McCain or Palin open their
mouths, somebody disputes their words – for the simple reason
that we have a hotly contested election. This is only to be expected.
Sometimes the critics do have a point, sometimes not.

In her interview with Gibson, Palin has made no factual mistakes
or (I watched it, and have read her critics.)
This is not a major achievement, of course, and not the main
reason to elect her. But as far as that superficial test goes,
she has passed it…

Her inexperience would be a substantial objection,
had she been inexperienced. But she isn’t.
She has a substantial experience of decision-making,
leading, working across party lines, promoting reform,
extirpating corruption, achieving real results.
Obama has not, but she has.

The more specialized “inexperience in foreign policy” is not a
valid litmus test. If it had been applied in the past, Abe Lincoln
could not have become president or Harry Truman
vice president.

My right?

Probably “You are” is meant here. (I am noting this
for a purpose – to be explained below, at ###).

“We should judge Palin by her inexperience but by what she says.”

For this sentence to begin to make sense, either
“not” must be inserted after “should”, or “but” must be
replaced by “and” – or some other surgical alteration
has to be performed.

“So far everytime she opens her mouth their is someone who disputes her words.”

“There is”, not “their is”.

###You see: every time you write a word there’s
someone who disputes it (I do).
And you’re not even running for office!

Every time Obama, Biden, McCain or Palin open their
mouths, somebody disputes their words – for the simple reason
that we have a hotly contested election. This is only to be expected.
Sometimes the critics do have a point, sometimes not.

In her interview with Gibson, Palin has made no factual mistakes
or (I watched it, and have read her critics.)
This is not a major achievement, of course, and not the main
reason to elect her. But as far as that superficial test goes,
she has passed it…

Her inexperience would be a substantial objection,
had she been inexperienced. But she isn’t.
She has a substantial experience of decision-making,
leading, working across party lines, promoting reform,
extirpating corruption, achieving real results.
Obama has not, but she has.

The more specialized “inexperience in foreign policy” is not a
valid litmus test. If it had been applied in the past, Abe Lincoln
could not have become president or Harry Truman
vice president.

She is your storyline. She is your vessel for neocon thought. She is the smiling face to put on the next war. She is the hockey mom with no scruples.

You are going to lose, Commentary. You lost the day you said that criticism of Israel was the same as anti-Semitism. That is something Lenin might say. It’s the last refuge of the damned. I love Israel, but Commentary is dead to me. God know I wish we had the same thoughtful journalists with Commentary that we have so many of in Israel.

McCain/Palin: best for Israel? Best for America? Best for the world? Look yourself in the mirror, unless all you want is a puppet.

If you want a puppet, at least admit it.

By the way, we “liberals” are not afraid of Palin/McCain. We just can’t believe you! We laugh more than we hate. We scoff more than we fear. Keep projecting: the fear is your YOUR hearts.

This is one of the many points at which narcissism becomes indistinguishable from masochism. Let me put it plainly: If you want someone just like you to be president of the United States, or even vice president, you deserve whatever dysfunctional society you get. You deserve to be poor, to see the environment despoiled, to watch your children receive a fourth-rate education and to suffer as this country wages — and loses — both necessary and unnecessary wars.
(Sam Harris)

Probably the NY Times had never heard of her just like me.I was going to vote McCain intil I started reading about this joke he calls his running mate.” iKnow things about Russia I can see it from here” Palin sure did get rid of the old boys club and ushered in the Sarah Palin club.Anyone who reads the stories about her would have to think If half this stuff is true she’s scary.Good thing Palin has no reach beyond Alaska or all these blogs that question her would be banned.

Your right.We should judge Palin by her inexperience but by what she says.So far everytime she opens her mouth their is someone who disputes her words.Including her (Is thst what I said Charlie ?? ) I am sure when she heard her own stance on the holy war of Iraq she was thinking I must sound like A NUTBAR ,which of course she does.People in this blog keep saying things like well Hilary did that or what do you expect her to do .If there was a poster child for hypocrasy Palin would be it.

She fires anyone who disagrees with her and surrounds herself with sycophantic, unqualified, yes-men cronies. ‘Sounds an awful lot like Bush to me.

what about the annenberg files, Ayarn, what was he actually teaching as a “professor’, law or left-wing politics?. what was he organizing? How much really does he has in commen with real afro-americans? Obama got raised with a silverspoon, went to an expensive highschool in Hawaii, Harvard (paid by or abused the affirmative action, something he really should not qualify for since his Kenian Father has nothing to do with affirmative action and his white mother that did take care of him (not his father who had 4 or more other women with children , one of them now living on $1 a day and Obama cannot even spare a dime more on him, how about that for family values)?

What about the fact that Obama cannot get a security clearance because of all his associations? He would immediately be rejected by the FBI and for sure would not be able to be his own secret-service agent.

BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS: DO WE TRUST THIS PERSON WITH THE KEYS TO OUR NUKES?

ESPECIALLY WITH MICHELLE AND ALL THOSE OTHER ‘FRIENDS’ SO CLOSE TO HIM….

But the governor of Illinois – a big state – says it makes no difference.
He says a governor’s position prepares one very well for the Oval Office – and that
it does not matter whether the state is big or small.

He says it precisely a propos Palin – and he is a
Democrat and a supporter of Obama:

“The reality is, governors every day have to make decisions for better or for worse. That’s part of the job. It’s an executive position. And it’s a position that is like what you’re going to do when you’re president. Legislators, they do different things. They debate and they pass their bills back and forth,” he said.

“But governors make decisions, and I think it’s a tactical mistake for the Democrats to question Gov. Palin’s experience when she’s been a governor of a state,” he said. “I don’t think the size of the state is relevant. It’s the kinds of decisions you have to make as governor. “

I am honestly frightened how many white woman have switched over to McCain after Palin. Her policies, or what we know of them, are nothing much to excite people. As far as I can tell, it is merely that she is “one of us.” It is a sentiment I hear echoed again and again, but I have yet to be able to find out why that in itself is sufficient. George Bush also has a personable quality (a good guy to have a beer with) and he has shown that that is not enough.

I am growing more cynical of American politics every day more voters switch to Palin. I can only hope that public euphoria over a republican woman will die out, and only her actual politics and policies will be what people make their judgments on.

I have learned in my own profession that if you buck a powerful and corrupt establishment, you will need to find other, capable people who may never have been in the establishment before to take their places. And yes, you start with people you trust who have also proved their competence on a smaller stage. What is gratifying is that most people competent at a lower level are also competent at a higher level, too–they just didn’t have the connections or the money to make it among the big-wigs. I have found the most impressive skills among those whose resumes were not picture perfect. That is one of the things that I love about America . . . just as I am proud that someone saw Palin’s potential, even though she didn’t go to Harvard or marry/inherit money or a name.

Perhaps when they wake up to the fact that Vladimir Putin and his friends are back, they’ll be glad. Putin buried George Bush. What do you think he’d do to the dithering, professorial Obama–exchange the names of their favorite tailors and vegan chefs?

McCain will win. John and Sarah … an irresistible combination to the people who make the US the greatest church-going society in the Western world.

I was shocked, shocked I say, that as mayor and gov. she had the gall to not fill her cabinet with political enemies and proven incompetants. That as mayor of a 7,000 person town she hired someone that she was friends with and trusted or had happened to go to the same highschool, nevermind there probably was only one highschool in town.

Now the real problem I had with her is the desceptive control of her public image and agenda. how dare she control her message and not let public officials secondguess her. How dare she decieve the stupid hicks in Alaska into voting for and liking her so much. We all know how dumb those rubes are, Hell I bet not one of them went to a ivy league school.

No, of course not. It is that she has been a very successful
mother, mayor, and governor. That puts her above most vice-presidents.

Many of them had had no executive experience at all: e.g., Richard Nixon,
Lyndon Johnson, Gerald Ford, Al Gore. For a possible executive position,
these had been both untrained and untested. She was both trained and tested
- and, what is really important, she has passed the test extraordinary
well. She is a natural – and we’re lucky to have her.

We may have a new Ronald Reagan here – and a young one;
or our own Margaret Thatcher; or at least a new Harry Truman.
This is a hope, not a prediction; but the auspices are good.
“If hopes are dupes, fears may be liars.”

But before we can have a well reason conversation about Palin’s merits or demerits as vice president, (I don’t want to talk about Obama in the least or make comparisions that allude to him. Either she is or is not qualified and the same would be true if she was running against, say, mickey mouse and donald duck.) I need you to agree to stop posting mistruths.

There’s no point to continuing the conversation if you are going to say things like ’she’ll be a crony for the oil companies,’ When the public record is very clear that she raised taxes on the oil industry in Alaska.

If you can agree to that I’d be more then happy to provide an argument for why Palin is indeed qualified to be the next vice president.

September 14th, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Have any of you actually READ the NYT article’
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I had a hard time getting past the lie int the first couple of paragraphs….
“So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship.”

“Natural Resources Commissioner Tom Irwin appointed Franci A. Havemeister Director of the State Divsion of Agriculture on August 1, 2007″
http://www.nasda.org/cms/7195/9474/8783.aspx

Considering that start to the article why should I believe the rest of it?

As for it costing over $400,000 to process an information request, that was a stalling tactic designed to get Rick Steiner of the U of Alaska to drop his request to get a couple of E-mails forwarded to him for examination, a request that was eventually fulfilled for FREE, thus proving that this was a stalling tactic, not a serious cost analysis.

Secretive, demanding personal loyalty, refusing to release information, claiming executive privilege, using private E-mail accounts for business when you don’t want a paper trail that could be subpoenaed. It all sounds eerily familiar.

As for the NYT article, I dobut that the ‘quotes’ they use are any more accurate than they quotes used by the Charlie Gibson piece.

ABC, NYT, NBC I have a question for you. What would happen if they broadcast or printed an article that no one would watch or read?

The liberal media is so in the tank for Obama that they are losing all credibility.

Just the facts. Pumping up your candidate whilst lowering the other doesn’t make it true. I don’t think many would agree with you that Alaska is a very complex state. It’s the third largest in land mass, but the 47th least populated. I will say that having executive experience is a qualification for higher office, though. But don’t pretend she’s been running a state like California or New York or Florida. She does have skill, and she’s very smart and a very skilled orator. Sound like anyone else you know?

And the Harvard Law review. Hmm. Considering Obama has done much more with his life than that (and you can delete the word “presume” when you can look at records and other facts to determine how well he did), bringing this up to belittle him amuses me. This is another argument that the right use. When someone calls Bush less than smart, they reply: “Not smart? He went to Harvard and Yale!” However, when Harvard is brought up to discuss someone on the left, they say, “What an elitist! And who cares if he went to that school. That just means he thinks he’s better than us.” When you point out that they used the Harvard argument to boost Bush’s credentials, they say, “Look at that bird over there,” and then run away while you watch, since you never turned your head in the first place.

Look, Palin and Obama have about the same amount of experience. But this race comes down to senator vs. senator. NEITHER of them have executive governing experience. And on that issue (26 years vs. 4 years) Obama will look like the least Washington-based candidate. And that is why he’ll win the election. You can’t fool us, righties. You weren’t keen on McCain at all before he picked the one person whom he knew the ultra-righties would love. He’s distracted the media (thankfully, the honeymoon looks like it’s over on that one) and he’s distracted you ultra-righties from realizing that Palin is not going to be president in 2009 because 1) McCain will lose and 2) even if McCain won, HE would be president, not Palin.

I’ve admitted that Obama has limited experience. Can you PLEASE stop acting as though Palin has been a governor for 20 years and was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

I know the answer to that one: Look over there!

September 14th, 2008 at 9:36 PM

I hate to burst the righties bubble, but there are many false Ayers stories giong around that they have taken as gospel (”Chicago Annenberg Project” is a story written by a blogger, which other bloggers have cited as actual news. Sorry, righties, it’s not true. ”

I seldom say this to someone on the web, but you are a liar or totally ignorant. The CAC was a legitimate organization funded by the Annenberg Foundation, founded by Ayers, and chaired by Obama. There is no “blogger” making up this story. The records were kept at UIC and have been made available to the public. There has been no one, including Obama and his campaign , that has denied that he worked for the Annenberg Challenge. Unless of course the millions of dollars spent were imaginary.

This is just what the Obama supporters have been doing, denying and lying. Too bad for them it’s so easy to catch them at it. Oh, and of course “happywash” won’t retract the lie.

September 14th, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Supporters of McCain-Palin don’t understand the business of government. If you can’t see how unqualified she is then you really need to go back to school. Every one of the candidates wives- Jill Biden, Cindy McCain, and Michelle Obama, are more qualified, with more education, and more “executive experience” than Sarah Palin. ”

Gee, maybe the Dems should have nominated one of them instead of “my only executive experience is as chairman of an organization that admitted it was a failure” Barack. LOL

And I’m sure you said (before you even heard the word Palin):

“I really hate Barack Obama. All he can do is give a good speech and inspire people, but he’s just a common politician. Nothing rare about that.

Could you righties get it straight? Is being a “celebrity” a good thing or a bad thing? Is “giving a good speech” a good thing or a bad thing? Is “drawing huge crowds” a good thing or a bad thing?

I know your answer: “When it happens on our side, it’s a good thing. When someone else is doing it, it’s bad.” And whenever this thing happens to you righties, you say “I doin’t see a contradiction, not at all.”

Scary.

Still, Cindy McCain has presided over a large business and we have no reason to assume that Jill Biden and Michelle Obama have not sussfully governed their households which would, in the latter two cases, make them more qualified than their husbands.